Article in the Newcastle Herald-"I just can't cop Aussie Rules"

[Diego]

Originally posted by eirinn


I said I wanted to be a football writer

Erin

So whats stopping you. You seem soo bitter at being rejected in some way...don't let it stop you...put this sexist rubbish away! You can do it..anyone can if they are passionate enough!

Look at our own Brett Kirk as a perfect example!

[Chubby Muffler]

Just going back a bit, one of the best things about winning at the Swans is singing the club song after the game. Not before it when they play it as the players run on, you haven't EARNT it then, as far as I am concerned. But after the game, when the fellas have won it has to rate as one of the best parts of being a supporter. AND I don't care if there is a bloody banjo, at least the person playing it's playing with passion. Like Baz pulling one down or Leo putting Gehrig in a box.

Coming from a Union/League background I didn't sing initially, just did not get it. But now you will fiond me and my mates standing on our chairs singing it for the third or fourth time. Even outside the ground (especially at the oppositions supporter's bus). And no-one belts it out like Bay 29

[OldE]

Originally posted by ryanokeefesbabi
So if you aim to be a sports journalist, maybe it would pay to see that tv reporting is not the only way of being one and that print media in Sydney alone is an example of talented journalists who have earned their position- no excess blonde streaks and famous surnames needed.

I agree completely. It was silly of my to overlook both Tugwell and Halloran. I read what they write, and hold Halloran, particularly, in high esteem.

Midnight rants are not a good idea. They tend to be unbalanced. I'm really not as bitter and resentful as it may suggest.

Erin

[ryanokeefesbabi]

Yeah, i think Jessica writes great stuff, and generally AFL newspaper coverage is good in Sydney- as long as they keep writing, then the sport and the swans get known.
At least we agree on Sam Newman- now theres a twit!

[peterh_oz]

Originally posted by ryanokeefesbabi
My main gripe with your post Erin is mainly the examples you have drawn on and the term 'sports journalist'. As far as I can see, barring the Caroline Wilson example, you have merely stated "sports reporters" or the women on television. Appearing on 'Before the Game' and at the Brownlow is more being a tele presenter in my opinion than a sports journo and i think Sam Lane falls into this category.

Sam Lane IS a sports journo. She presents on ch10 BUT her other work is as a journo. She started at either the local newspaper or 3RRR radio (can't remember which but has done both, and not because she's Tim Lane's daughter!), and now works for SEN and Sportal (as a sports journo NOT a presenter). She also worked for the AFLwebsite before & when she started @ ch10. She's not a bimbo-type script-reader.

[peterh_oz]

Originally posted by eirinn
Midnight rants are not a good idea. They tend to be unbalanced. I'm really not as bitter and resentful as it may suggest.

Glad to hear that

[OldE]

Originally posted by peterh_oz
Glad to hear that

That was a bit harsh...

[Wardy]

Well Kylie Gillies started at Prime (channel 7) in Tamworth from finishing school at Tamworth HIgh (prob 1984) - she was there up until she moved to Sydney in 1996. Whilst at Tamworth you pretty much had to cover everything from the News, to stock and station reports, the weather & sport - she did the lot - and then landed the plum job at Seven in Sydney - went to 2 Olympics covered all the major sporting events and even gave birth to first child on Grand Final day 2 or 3 years ago!
She had the determination to do it.

So you dont have to have a private school education, it does help at times to know someone, but it takes determination to get there - and from reading your words Eirinn, you obviously have a gift , use it wisely and try to lighten up a bit.

I'm assuming that you are only in your early late teens early 20's?
(and there is nothing wrong with that - I wish I was 20 again and knew what I know now!)

I can say in all honesty, in 20 years time you will cringe at the stuff you are so enraged about now - and hopefully you will laugh about it.
(in fact my family wont let me forget about the things I used to get so upset about!)

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Wardy
I wish I was 20 again and knew what I know now!

LOL!!!!! Don't we all Wardy!!!! Ahhh, the things that we would've changed in hindsight.

[Wardy]

God I tell you, I really do cringe at times when I "look back"
I even came out and said to a younger colleague last week "in my day" and then I stopped and just started laughing - the colleague now thinks that I'm on drugs!

[OldE]

20 exactly...
How did you know....?

I don't actuallly mean for everything I say to be taken literally. Irony is one of my favourite things in the entire universe. Not just sarcasm, irony. VERY important difference. The difficulty with the internet, and message boards, is that you can't use the intenation (sp?) in your voice to signify when you are being ironic.

One of the frustrations of modern communication. Though I suppose, Jane Austen faced a similar fate when writing letters, so perhaps the problem is as old as the written word....

Erin

PS The off-season really is dull, isn't it, when we are reduce to writing this sort of thing....

[Wardy]

I could just tell!!! but you really do have a great writing gift - keep at it I'm sure you will do well.

cheers

(God you are so right - I dont like the off season at all!)

[OldE]

Thankyou very much

[OldE]

Originally posted by Whitefox
They do their micky mouse art degrees at UWS nepean - read a bit of derrida and foucalt, spend their mandatory half-day at Veruna, then hang out in katoomba st. at the Isobar or Zuppa drinking lates, surrounded by small groups of obsequious, sycophantic flat-landers, mesmerised by their only slightly greater than average education. People like this see their failure as a failure of the world, threatend by anyone who makes it in life, accusing them of simony or nepotism. They're a dime a dozen and make me want to puke blood.

Arts degree at UNSW- I travel. Haven't read any Derrida or Foucalt- my major is sports history. I hate lattes, live in Springwood, none of my close friends here are Arts students and we're far more likely to watch Australian Idol than anything else. When I do make an arts-studenty comment, they totally take the piss, and I'm far more likely to be mesmorised by a cute pair of shoes than my own education.

Not that you're sterotyping or anything...

[Chubby Muffler]

Originally posted by eirinn
Not that you're sterotyping or anything...

Maybe they are being ironic