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  • j s
    Think positive!
    • Jan 2003
    • 3303

    #31
    Originally posted by dread and might
    That's how they stay rich..... the (*&&^* face stamping, scratching biting goons. if it's the game they play in heaven, i'll have a reserved seat at the other joint.
    zero respect from me for any sport with fat blokes at the top level.
    It's the game they play in corporate board rooms: face stamping, scratching biting, anything to get a business advantage or screw the consumers.

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    • Bas
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4457

      #32
      It will be interesting to go to SA on a Sunday afternoon. I hope the game starts at 2pm.

      You can't compare this game to a Sunday pre-season game against Carlton.

      I don't think games in Sydney should ever be telecast live into Sydney.

      Why didn't the AFL just switch the game back to the SCG on the Saturday night? Because there would be less people in attendance than the number that would turn up on a Sunday afternoon at SA. I know the official spiel will be three contracted games at SA...........................

      If the AFL (or ARU) compensates the Swans for any losses incurred on their part for having the game on Sunday then that's the AFL's loss. I'm sure the ARU has made a generous donation becuase why else would Andrew Demetriou

      Lets hope it's a sunny day, there's no trackwork and a fully fit team.

      It gives the Swans advertising team a very interesting assignment in creating something out of this. Let's wait and see what they can do.



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      • Damien
        Living in 2005
        • Jan 2003
        • 3713

        #33
        Originally posted by robbieando
        Cats vs Demons at Skilled is the other 1pm Sunday game and the Cats aren't going to be happy to give up the National coverage just like that. Its going to be hard to fix the fixture around to fit our game in for Ch 9 coverage, so I guess its best no one gets their hopes up for FTA national coverage just yet. From where I stand it seems unlikely unless Ch 10 show the match.
        I just don't understand the 1pm start if 9 isn't going to show it nationally, plus I can't see Fox Footy wanting to cover two games on the Sunday...and Channel 10 will want a game on the Saturday night which will rule them out of taking it on the Sunday.

        My feeling is that the AFL will change the roster that weekend, perhaps something will be worked out to give Cats/Demons prime time on a Saturday night? who knows. Guess we will find out more in the next few months.

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        • swansrock4eva
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 1352

          #34
          BAH!

          So not happy about this!

          the AFL have become a bunch of weak, spineless little babies who appear to know nothing about negotiations! Now they've left themselves with a nasty hole for TV rights, scheduling with other clubs and countless other issues, all because they wouldn't stand up to the Rugby bullies!

          Why didn't they just swap an SCG night game for an SA one though? sounds like they're shooting themselves in the foot all round really...

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16773

            #35
            Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
            I'm with you Erin. Upon reading about this I'm completely filled with rage. When doing everything ethically and reserving the arena on the Saturday night, the AFL and Demetriou has been shown to be nothing but a milksop at the hands of the ARU's evil brinksmanship.
            Do we actually know this to be the case though? It is entirely feasible that both associations booked the the stadium in good faith on the Saturday and that somehow the double booking wasn't picked up by the SA management.

            Unless anyone has inside knowledge on how the double booking occured, it is presumptious to assign blame or to accuse the AFL of rolling over from a position of "being in the right".

            If it was a simple error - albeit a big one - the greater pulling power of the Bledisloe Cup, coupled with the lesser flexibility that the ARU has with its scheduling for internationals than a domestic competition (the AFL) has, was always going to win the day.

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            • Mark
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Jan 2003
              • 578

              #36
              Has anyone considered that the AFL, which is probably the best administered sport in Australia, may actually know what they are doing ?

              Why does everyone assume complete incompetance or lack of back bone !

              You never know, maybe both the AFL and the Swans actually got a good deal out of this ? i mean, they only said that in every interview given on the subject !

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              • robbieando
                The King
                • Jan 2003
                • 2750

                #37
                Originally posted by Damien
                I just don't understand the 1pm start if 9 isn't going to show it nationally
                If the AFL doesn't change the fixture and keeps two 1pm starts, the 1pm start for our match would be so, coverage of the Syd v Bris match could be shown LIVE into Sydney and Brisbane on Ch9 before Ch9 show the League at 4. A 2pm start couldn't be shown LIVE on Ch 9 into those cities any other way. Still I think the fixture will be changed around to suit the boardcasters.

                to give Cats/Demons prime time on a Saturday night?
                That won't happen because Skilled Stadium doesn't have lights and the Dome is being used on the Saturday and Sunday already. Most likely will see the Cats v Dees moved to Saturday afternoon, Port vs Crows moved to Saturday Night and all is right fixture and TV wise.
                Last edited by robbieando; 1 December 2004, 05:57 PM.
                Once was, now elsewhere

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                • robbieando
                  The King
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2750

                  #38
                  Originally posted by liz
                  Do we actually know this to be the case though? It is entirely feasible that both associations booked the the stadium in good faith on the Saturday and that somehow the double booking wasn't picked up by the SA management.
                  The ARU had booked the ground for the Bledisloe Cup on the 6th of August to begin with, before a late change to the Tri-Nations fixture meant they had to move it to the 13th of August. However the AFL had earlier booked the ground for that date when working out their fixture. So when the ARU rebooked the ground they weren't informed of the Swans booking therefore, the clash happened.
                  Once was, now elsewhere

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                  • The Undertaker
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 517

                    #39
                    Originally posted by eirinn
                    I guess it's the attitude that irritates me. I am sick of all my rugby-loving friends telling me that rugby is the far superior code, and this will only fuel the fire. We're acting like we're second best, and allowing the ARU to be the prima donnas they are.

                    To capture the Sydney market, the AFL needs to be aggressive. I really don't see how moving the game would help, unless it's something we can hold against them in later duels.

                    Sorry, just needed a whinge.
                    I agree with you eirinn!The snobs over at the ARU have every little respect for the AFL code and they thumb their toffee noses up in the air at the other codes too!The AFL needs to stand their ground on this one and fight to the death!It will be a tough battle but one,i hope we win!The ARU need to be told,where they can stick it!!!
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                    • The Boot
                      A Blood to the bootstraps
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 544

                      #40
                      Originally posted by liz
                      Do we actually know this to be the case though? It is entirely feasible that both associations booked the the stadium in good faith on the Saturday and that somehow the double booking wasn't picked up by the SA management.

                      Unless anyone has inside knowledge on how the double booking occured, it is presumptious to assign blame or to accuse the AFL of rolling over from a position of "being in the right".

                      If it was a simple error - albeit a big one - the greater pulling power of the Bledisloe Cup, coupled with the lesser flexibility that the ARU has with its scheduling for internationals than a domestic competition (the AFL) has, was always going to win the day.
                      Totally agree. Even blind Freddie could see this coming. Look, I'm not fussed, and I don't feel I have to check in to anger management classes like a lot of posters here.
                      Good men do good deeds. Evil men do evil deeds. But it takes religion for a good man to do evil deeds.

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                      • Dr Worm
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                        • Aug 2004
                        • 47

                        #41
                        The fact that the game has been moved dosent really bother me, I just hope that they make one of the other sunday games a Saturday night game. I much prefer the saturday games as it allows for a bit of post game celler brating without worrying about work the next day.
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                        • DST
                          The voice of reason!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2705

                          #42
                          Spoke to a little birdy who said that the following had been agreed by the ARU to get their way:

                          a) They will underwrite any loss of crowd below 60,000 effectively meaning the game won't cost us anything if the crowd is effected by the change in date

                          b) The game will be played with the stands configured to an oval to protect the surface

                          And finally Channel 10 will be given the option to broadcast the game on Sunday if they want to, to make up for the loss of the Saturday night slot.

                          Can also expect to see no Rugby games in 2006 anywhere in Australia on the nights we play our three Stade De Oz games as well.

                          DST
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                          • OldE

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DST
                            Can also expect to see no Rugby games in 2006 anywhere in Australia on the nights we play our three Stade De Oz games as well.

                            If this proves to be the case, I am much happier.

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                            • Damien
                              Living in 2005
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3713

                              #44
                              And finally Channel 10 will be given the option to broadcast the game on Sunday if they want to, to make up for the loss of the Saturday night slot.
                              That would be a huge moment in Australian TV history, and I can't see it happening.

                              AFL going head to head on rival FTA networks.

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                              • sharpie
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1588

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DST
                                Can also expect to see no Rugby games in 2006 anywhere in Australia on the nights we play our three Stade De Oz games as well.
                                Please let this be true.
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