Rugby Calender Clashes with Swans Draw

[DST]

Originally posted by sharpie
Please let this be true.

While the little birdy was not privy to the actual discussions he was aware of what the AFL wanted to have the game moved, so let's hope so.

DST

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Damien
That would be a huge moment in Australian TV history, and I can't see it happening.

AFL going head to head on rival FTA networks.

True. But it will happen if the Cats aren't willing to give up their National coverage for their home match. If no moves are made expect the TV coverage on that Sunday to be

1pm - Channel 9 - Geelong vs Melbourne
1pm - Channel 10 - Sydney vs Brisbane
2pm - Fox Footy - Richmond vs Western Bulldogs
4pm* - Channel 9 - Hawthorn vs Essendon

Start time of TV coverage not gametime

[Damien]

My question is why would Channel 10 be happy to have NO games on that Saturday night live? and give the southern states that night to 7 and the Wallabies?

I just can't see them giving up their Saturday night prime time spot in the Southern States which would rule them out of taking any games on Sunday.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Damien
My question is why would Channel 10 be happy to have NO games on that Saturday night live? and give the southern states that night to 7 and the Wallabies?

I just can't see them giving up their Saturday night prime time spot in the Southern States which would rule them out of taking any games on Sunday.

It probably would not be as big a deal in Melbourne as in Sydney, Coz there aren't as many wallaby fans in melbourne.

[Damien]

But still prime time is prime time. Advertisers would be promised a certain number of prime time games, and to just move it to a Sunday where the audience is lower anyway plus an audience that will be split by games on rival FTA and pay networks is totally crazy.

I can't see 10, 9, Foxtel or the AFL wanting that type of Sunday at all. I would be very very shocked if the weekend was totally reorganised to suit this change.

[go_monty]

What Channel will it be on

Dont you think that if Channel 9 has the game they will just broadcast Sydney V Brisbane to NSW and QLD and at the same time broadcast the Cats Game into Melbourne. Strangley enough television stations can do this.

If channel 10 had the game i am sure they would just broadcast into NSW and Queensland and Channel 9 would not broadcast the Cats game into these states they would program something else. This would mean that VIC, SA and WA and probably Canberra still see the cats game.

And why you are all worrying about what is on TV, you should all be at the game and help the Swans get the biggest crowd ever.

GM

[Damien]

And 10 or Foxtel just lose a game do they Go Monty?

You might have noticed we have heaps of Melbourne fans go Monty, TV coverage is a big deal to Swans fans.

[barry]

Originally posted by liz

If it was a simple error - albeit a big one - the greater pulling power of the Bledisloe Cup, coupled with the lesser flexibility that the ARU has with its scheduling for internationals than a domestic competition (the AFL) has, was always going to win the day.

I fail to see how a 16 team comp with grounds at a premium, and in the cut and thrust of a 22 week season is supposedly more flexibility in scheduling than a 3 team comp playing half a dozen games.

Thats the biggest furphy of them all.

International comp? Its NZ FFS, Perth's further away than NZ. Its almost another state.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Damien
And 10 or Foxtel just lose a game do they Go Monty?

You might have noticed we have heaps of Melbourne fans go Monty, TV coverage is a big deal to Swans fans.

And Melbourne-based Lions fans as well.

The more I think of it, the more I'd like to think that there has been significant coin handed over in our direction.

If the ARU has to underwrite our crowd, then really we can't lose.

But let's get 50000+ in any case! And market the hell out of OUR product!

JF

[Bart]

Well I've just booked a room at the Novetel for the Saturday night. Bledisloe followed by Swans the next day. What a weekend!

[liz]

Originally posted by barry
I fail to see how a 16 team comp with grounds at a premium, and in the cut and thrust of a 22 week season is supposedly more flexibility in scheduling than a 3 team comp playing half a dozen games.

Thats the biggest furphy of them all.

In Sydney one AFL game is played approximately every other weekend during the winter. There are two grounds at which a game can be accomodated and 5 time slots at which it can be played (although Fri evening and Sat afternoon are rarely used in Sydney).

For one of those grounds, there is almost no competition during the winter. At the other, the competition is limited to a few bigger league games (inc SOO) and the odd soccer or rugby international.

Furthermore, the participants in AFL have no competing obligations. Rugby internationals, on the other hand, have to fit in around S12 and club rugby competitions of all the nations that also compete internationally. This added complexity reduces flexibility considerably.

[floppinab]

Originally posted by DST
Spoke to a little birdy who said that the following had been agreed by the ARU to get their way:

b) The game will be played with the stands configured to an oval to protect the surface

DST

Well we know about this one easily enough, will be watching that game very very closel.

[barry]

Originally posted by liz
In Sydney one AFL game is played approximately every other weekend during the winter. There are two grounds at which a game can be accomodated and 5 time slots at which it can be played (although Fri evening and Sat afternoon are rarely used in Sydney).

For one of those grounds, there is almost no competition during the winter. At the other, the competition is limited to a few bigger league games (inc SOO) and the odd soccer or rugby international.

Furthermore, the participants in AFL have no competing obligations. Rugby internationals, on the other hand, have to fit in around S12 and club rugby competitions of all the nations that also compete internationally. This added complexity reduces flexibility considerably.

No, The AFL have significant TV networking schedules to adhere to. As can be seen by the horse trading being discussed on which Sunday game will be moved to Saturday night to apease Ch 10.
The ARU have no such other games to move. They could play Friday night, Sunday night or Sunday arvo. Ch 7 doesnt have to move other games, and as for the arugment about S12 - its well over by then, and 3rd teir comps (like NPC) should not have any influence at all compared to an AFL round.

[swansrule100]

this is a lot of fuss about nothing to me the reschedule isnt that important

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by swansrule100
this is a lot of fuss about nothing to me the reschedule isnt that important

Coming from somebody sitting in a lounge room in bloody Tasmania, I wouldn't be expecting any more. Have you ever been to Telstra Stadium of an afternoon? Do you understand how crap it will be as a venue then?

Do you realise how taking a match from its rightful Saturday night time slot could instantly mean goodbye to up to 20000 extra patrons.

I still remain highly annoyed by all this, even if Demetriou has been given cash on the sly. As I know the steps that rugger people will do to get THEIR way, knowing that they have the highest profile sporting product in the country at their disposal.

Then again, the tweed coat brigade know that outside the Bledisloe and Cook Cup the great majority of the population has little interest in the code. Have you bothered watching a Sydney rugby Grand Final, with Randwick winning every year in front of 3 men and a dog?