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  • robbieando
    The King
    • Jan 2003
    • 2750
    #16
    Originally posted by cressakel
    Didn't watch many North games in the 90's and early 2000's I presume......

    R.Harvey isn't W.Carey's bootlaces, in fact there are NO players who are even close to WanCarey. The bloke was the best player in the last 20 years, regardless of people's opinion's on his off field actions, deeds and misdemeanours....
    Just my opinion. I don't rate Carey as much as you do, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a great player. Harvey has been one of the most underrated players of all time. Over 300 games and two Brownlow's speak volumes of his abilty.
    Once was, now elsewhere

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      • cruiser
        What the frack!
        • Jul 2004
        • 6114
        #17
        This threads been hijacked by a Wayne Carey debate when the original question was about the top 5 Sydney players.

        Since my time as a Swan's supporter (1987 +) I would nominate:
        1. Paul Kelly
        2. Tony Lockett
        3. Greg Williams
        4. Gerard Healey
        (all Brownlow winners too)
        5. Barry Hall
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        I don't eat animals since discovering this ability. I used to. But one day the lamb I was eating came through to me and ever since then I haven't been able to eat meat.
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          • Plugger46
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2003
            • 3674
            #18
            In the early 90's when North would murder us, Bayes used to beat Carey everytime. I certainly don't think he was anywhere near the difference in the '96 GF, and he certainly wasn't CLEARLY the best footballer of the last 20 years. He played in the best side in the business with great players around him. I'd take Lockett and Ablett ahead of him everytime. They had to perform in some very ordinary sides at different times, with disgraceful midfields delivering the ball to them, particularly Lockett.

            Cressakel, you have just been brainwashed by Carey crap.
            Bloods

            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819
                #19
                My top 5 Swans players of all time:

                1. Bobby Skilton
                2. Laurie Nash.
                3. Tony Lockett
                4. Greg Williams
                5. Bob Pratt

                Apologies to Bedford, Cleary, Kelly, Healy, Rantall, Roos, Goldsmith, Matthews.

                In my time, I would have:

                1. Lockett
                2. G Williams
                3. Kelly
                4. Healy
                5. Roos

                A few others in the top echelon include Rantall, Browning, Cresswell, Round, Evans, Bayes, Carter, Dunkley, Murphy, T Morwood, Wright, D Carroll, P Williams, Hall.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • cressakel
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2004
                    • 455
                    #20
                    Originally posted by robbieando
                    Just my opinion. I don't rate Carey as much as you do, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a great player. Harvey has been one of the most underrated players of all time. Over 300 games and two Brownlow's speak volumes of his abilty.
                    And always hits a target NO MORE than 25-30 metres away....

                    Saints fans are still waiting on the 55 metre drop punt or, heaven forbid, the 60 metre torpedo...

                    Harvey was/is a fantastic player, although " two Brownlow's speak volumes of his abilty " doesn't really, as Libba, Couch, Woewodin, B.Hardie etc etc are not worthy Brownlow medallists.
                    Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                    Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                      • cressakel
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2004
                        • 455
                        #21
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        Are you planning to continue to use that one weekly, or are you feverishly plotting to find some other tired old cliche that you can trot out...
                        I'll take it one cliche at a time NMWBloods....
                        Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                        Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                          • cressakel
                            On the Rookie List
                            • May 2004
                            • 455
                            #22
                            Originally posted by NMWBloods
                            My top 5 Swans players of all time:

                            1. Bobby Skilton
                            2. Laurie Nash.
                            3. Tony Lockett
                            4. Greg Williams
                            5. Bob Pratt

                            Apologies to Bedford, Cleary, Kelly, Healy, Rantall, Roos, Goldsmith, Matthews.

                            In my time, I would have:

                            1. Lockett
                            2. G Williams
                            3. Kelly
                            4. Healy
                            5. Roos

                            A few others in the top echelon include Rantall, Browning, Cresswell, Round, Evans, Bayes, Carter, Dunkley, Murphy, T Morwood, Wright, D Carroll, P Williams, Hall.
                            What about Darren Holmes, David Winbanks and Stephen Allendar, they all could play (locally anyway) ?!
                            Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                            Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                              • cressakel
                                On the Rookie List
                                • May 2004
                                • 455
                                #23
                                Originally posted by Plugger46
                                In the early 90's when North would murder us, Bayes used to beat Carey everytime. I certainly don't think he was anywhere near the difference in the '96 GF, and he certainly wasn't CLEARLY the best footballer of the last 20 years. He played in the best side in the business with great players around him. I'd take Lockett and Ablett ahead of him everytime. They had to perform in some very ordinary sides at different times, with disgraceful midfields delivering the ball to them, particularly Lockett.

                                Cressakel, you have just been brainwashed by Carey crap.
                                I cannot recall Mark Bayes ever playing on Wayne Carey. If he did, I'm sure Carey would have beaten Bayes, as one had a huge heart and loved the hard ball along with his extraordinary ability, whereas the other was known more for his beautiful long left foot kicking....

                                North were an average side with Carey out, he made North the " best side in the business ".

                                Plugger46, my eyes must have been brainwashed watching North games - @@@@EN NOT.
                                Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                                Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                                  • footyhead
                                    Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 1367
                                    #24
                                    Originally posted by robbieando
                                    Five Best Swans Players of All Time

                                    1. Bob Skilton
                                    2. Laurie Nash
                                    3. Bob Pratt
                                    4. John Rantall
                                    5. Paul Kelly
                                    No room for plugger in the top 5 (wow), Even having Paul kelly ahead of Plugger is an extreamly big call.

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                                      • NMWBloods
                                        Taking Refuge!!
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 15819
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by cressakel
                                        I'll take it one cliche at a time NMWBloods....
                                        Well you don't seem to able to get past the same one, so that hardly surprises me...

                                        What about Darren Holmes, David Winbanks and Stephen Allendar, they all could play (locally anyway) ?!
                                        Yawn...
                                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                                          • NMWBloods
                                            Taking Refuge!!
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 15819
                                            #26
                                            Originally posted by cressakel
                                            I cannot recall Mark Bayes ever playing on Wayne Carey. If he did, I'm sure Carey would have beaten Bayes, as one had a huge heart and loved the hard ball along with his extraordinary ability, whereas the other was known more for his beautiful long left foot kicking....
                                            You think that's all Bayes did?!? Talk about selective amnesia!!
                                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                                              • cressakel
                                                On the Rookie List
                                                • May 2004
                                                • 455
                                                #27
                                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                                Well you don't seem to able to get past the same one, so that hardly surprises me...



                                                Yawn...
                                                Red Alert - we have a very serious person on this site. Must have a deep serious voice to go with it....
                                                Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                                                Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                                                  • cressakel
                                                    On the Rookie List
                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 455
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                                    You think that's all Bayes did?!? Talk about selective amnesia!!
                                                    How could I forget Bayes' front teeth being knocked out in his earlier days playing a Reserves game at The Lake Oval on a Sunday and also that dog Craig Kelly ripping Bayes' shoulder from the socket at Vic Park in front of the Feral Toothless Members....

                                                    Bayes beating Kernahan on a regular basis also springs from this selective mind....
                                                    Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

                                                    Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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                                                      • cruiser
                                                        What the frack!
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 6114
                                                        #29
                                                        [i]In my time, I would have:

                                                        1. Lockett
                                                        2. G Williams
                                                        3. Kelly
                                                        4. Healy
                                                        5. Roos

                                                        A few others in the top echelon include Rantall, Browning, Cresswell, Round, Evans, Bayes, Carter, Dunkley, Murphy, T Morwood, Wright, D Carroll, P Williams, Hall. [/B]
                                                        Yikes NMW, you and I have picked an almost identical 5! I was very undecided about my number 5 and I admit overlooking Roos completely. I went for Hall because I think he'll be there by the end of his career. Capper (seriously), Dunkley, Cresswell, Bayes, Toohey, Carter, Goodes and Schwass were others I considered.
                                                        Occupational hazards:
                                                        I don't eat animals since discovering this ability. I used to. But one day the lamb I was eating came through to me and ever since then I haven't been able to eat meat.
                                                        - animal psychic Amanda de Warren

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                                                          • NMWBloods
                                                            Taking Refuge!!
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 15819
                                                            #30
                                                            Forgot about Toohey and Schwass. Would also like to have included Neagle if he had played longer.
                                                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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