Healy on the Swans

[Nico]

Liz,

What you said early in this thread about psychology etc. is what I called the "self fulfilling prophesy" in another thread. Say something often enough and they will believe it.

What he needs right now is a big dose of innovationchange to get this out of their minds. We know their disposal has been ordinary and we know that Roos has tried like heck to correct it, but clearly we have some very dumb footballers who have genuine trouble correcting behaviour.

I have been as bigger knocker of BoltonJ and his disposal etc. as anyone, but at least he appears to have made a genuine effort on his weaknesses with 2 out of 4 games with almost faultless disposal. Surely some of the others might try, unless of course they are past the point of no return. "Can't teach old dogs new tricks" as the saying goes.

[ScottH]

I couldn't work out which of these clowns you are Go Swannies???

Clowns

[anne]

Go Swannies, your summary of what needs to be done is excellent and exactly right. What a shame someone at the club and some decent sports journalists don't read it.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
The Doggies a chance for a flag? I don't think so.

The tragedy is that if we'd won that last quarter against the Lions in 2003 we could have knocked the Pies off in the Grand Final.

If the 'Dogs hadn't lost the final qtr of the '97 PF then they could have knocked off the Saints in the GF.

[footyhead]

Originally posted by anne
Go Swannies, your summary of what needs to be done is excellent and exactly right.

Thanks very much.

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by footyhead
The Swans still don't believ in themselves and that is one persons fault.

I see f/head has a new drum. Well, maybe the same drum, but a new beat.

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by footyhead
WoW

I hope that's not sarcasm F/head, because at least Go Swannies has the proof.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by ScottH
I couldn't work out which of these clowns you are Go Swannies???

Clowns

The one on the right is the co-author of my Antarctic books. The three on the left are Larry, Mo and Curley, South Georgia's best stand-up act. Or they are king penguins at Gold Harbour who just don't know the wildlife distance guidelines.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by footyhead
Well you asked for it. Sorry it is so long winded but hey that's footyhead for ya.... !!!

So basically, the reason the Swans haven't won a flag because they dont have enough critics in Sydney.... riiiight.

And conversely, the great teams have won because they do??

By that reasoning, Essendon and Collingwood or maybe Hawthorn will fight out the GF this year. Not likely.

And West Coast haven't got a chance with all of the drooling the media in the country is doing at the moment.

[dendol]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
So basically, the reason the Swans haven't won a flag because they dont have enough critics in Sydney.... riiiight.

And conversely, the great teams have won because they do??

By that reasoning, Essendon and Collingwood or maybe Hawthorn will fight out the GF this year. Not likely.

And West Coast haven't got a chance with all of the drooling the media in the country is doing at the moment.

Not that I agree entirely with FH's post, I don't think his post was meant to be aplied exclusively to 2005.

Essendon and Hawthorn have won more flags in the last 20 years than the Swans have ever won since 1874. And perhaps the media was especially harsh on Collingwood during the 1920's and 1930's.

Also, West Coast are sitting at the top of the ladder with 4-0 and are flag favourites this year. If you don't lose games whilst also managing to play exciting footy, why wouldn't you want the media drooling over you?

[Bron]

Originally posted by j s
I know Liz is right!
It was confidence that the ball *would* come out that allowed them to be running.

That's why we won the Port final 18 months ago. They sent a handball out (against the odds) "believing" the right guy would be there, and he was. Confidence (belief) are wondrous in a team environment.

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by dendol
Also, West Coast are sitting at the top of the ladder with 4-0 and are flag favourites this year. If you don't lose games whilst also managing to play exciting footy, why wouldn't you want the media drooling over you?

According to FH it breeds complacency. That would be the sort of thing someone with Judd's lack of skill just cant afford to have happen.

[DST]

While culture plays an important part at any football club, it is not the be all and end all as to whether you win or lose a premiership.

To borrow a line from Denis Pagan in the current Carlton membership commercial "Success is a process and (insert component here) is a part of that".

To me there are 3 fundemental issues underpining the process to build a premiership team that need to be addressed. Get these things right then the success and culture of the club will be organic and come.

{ Please note, some of these may never be fixed or are 50 years away but IMHO are ultimately crucial for us to gain success}

1) Our home ground dimensions must be adjusted to approximate the MCG and Telstra Dome and be closer to AAMI & Subi. This will allow the coaching panel to develop a style of play that can consistently win at home or on the road. This may mean more games at Telstra Stadium but ultimately we must push for an extension to the playing surface at the SCG when they redevelope the scoreboard end.

2) Urgent work is required to the state league in NSW to allow our young players the opportunity of playing a greater standard of football week in and out. How this is done I don't know, maybe combine the NSW & ACT league to form a super league and then pump serious dollars into it to atract a better standard of player?

3) Due to the current draft rules the rookie draft has become a significant tool in developing your list. Due to the standard of their state leagues the other clubs (besides probably the Lions) are at a distinct advantage when it comes to being able to locate talent within their state (more of it) and then fast track it through their rookie programs (better compertition to develop it).

No easy fixes there, no airy fairy statements about a better culture will bring success. Just hard facts about what we are up against at this point in time in trying to win a premiership in the toughest domestic football compertition in Australia.

DST

[Matt79]

Originally posted by footyhead


1. The Swans do not have enough Healthy Scrutiny with enough well respected journo's and commentators writing editorial opinion articles in the big Sydney news papers pointing out to the less educated what they should be hoping for or afraid of in the recent developments of their team and it's progress.

Thanks Footyhead for your response.

Some interesting ideas. I defiantely agree with you on the lack of healthy media scrutiny here in Sydney. I couldn't believe that after such an insipid display against the Crows we managed to slip completely under the radar. The dockers got most of the attention for playing poorly and me barely rated a mention.

I would like to see the media giving a more honest appraisal on a team's performance here in Sydney along the lines that Parramatta got absolutely slammed after their loss to Brisbane...the headline was "Parrathetic" and they were balsted all week...what did they do? They come out and beat Melbourne in Melbourne 26-14. I think the media focus certinaly helped them turn it around.

Media Scrutiny does help to shake out complacancy!

PS I hope you and Go Swannies know I was just filling in time with my comparision?? No insult to either intended!

[Matt79]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
According to FH it breeds complacency. That would be the sort of thing someone with Judd's lack of skill just cant afford to have happen.

Yes you are right because the amount of media on him would be incredible with the slightest form drop off!