Got Milk? Got Superstars? Got Roos.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by dendol
Its obviously too draining on them and so they can only do it once every two weeks, hence the L-W-L-W-L record recently.

Fair enough, we should probably halve their salaries too...

[dendol]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Just need one game-breaker really.

Like a McLeod, Black, Stevens, Hird,
Crawford, Bruce, P Burgoyne, Del Santo, Ball, Judd, West.

Lots out there... none with us yet.

Just one? Look at all the teams with a better midfield than ours and you will see that they all have more than 1 genuine game-breaker.

But I do agree - one game-breaker will definately help.

[ihamilto]

Re: Re: Got Milk? Got Superstars? Got Roos.

Originally posted by Schneiderman
In all fairness to Roos, he is still correct though. And I dont hear anyone on these boards agreeing that J Bolton or Kirk or Matthews are superstars. Those of us who dare even hint at them being above average players get shot down in flames.

And for the record, who here would knock back Tyson Edwards, Andrew McLeod or Mark Riccuito?

Or for that matter Brent Harvey, Adam Simpson or Shannon Grant?

The line is certainly a tired and overused one, but only because the truth is. Lets just hope that with Schmidt, Willoughby, McVeigh, Moore and co we may unearth some extra talent.

I still remember Kevin Sheenan the junior talent manager remarking when Schmidts name was read out at the draft in 2003 that he was one of the best young players to come from South Australia in many years, time to give him a chance to show some of that talent.
cheers Ian

[sharpie]

Originally posted by dendol
Its obviously too draining on them and so they can only do it once every two weeks, hence the L-W-L-W-L record recently.

I agree with this. Our gameplan of requiring the entire side to flood back into defence and then charge up the ground when we get the turnover is bloody hard work. As soon as the guys get a little tired, our gameplan goes to water. We need a simpler gameplan that doesnt require this level of continuous hard running.

[Snowy]

Black isn't a game breaker he's an inside midfielder. Dal Santo isn't either he's outside and a link in the chain, though a very good one. Pickett and Burgoyne types are though, so is Judd, Nigel Lappin when he's at his top. Aker of his vintage games.

[Snowy]

And just to add I don't think some of those players would be as effective at the SCG, except for Black as an insider, the smaller ground tends to bottle up play and stifle creativity.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Snowy
Black isn't a game breaker he's an inside midfielder.

He's both - have a look at the 2003 GF!

Dal Santo isn't either he's outside and a link in the chain, though a very good one.

Outside midfielders can be game breakers - they can get the ball, find space, run the lines, provide the meaningful link, and deliver the ball into dangerous spots.

Dal Santo isn't there yet, but I think he will be.
Black is definitely a game breaker.

[stellation]

Originally posted by dendol
but only 2 in the midfield, one of which is close to the end of his career and the other who plays primarily a defensive role.

Its true, we dont have any/enough midfield superstars.

Yep, which is why he has changed to saying that he doesn't have enough midfield superstars instead!

[anne]

We may have some potential game breakers but as they are never given a chance we will never know.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by anne
We may have some potential game breakers but as they are never given a chance we will never know.

Willoughby spoke after the game on Sunday. He's tiny! He looked about 2kg heavier than Kylie Minogue (that may be an exaggeration). But certainly Daniel Bradshaw could carry him around all day and not even notice.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Willoughby spoke after the game on Sunday. He's tiny! He looked about 2kg heavier than Kylie Minogue (that may be an exaggeration). But certainly Daniel Bradshaw could carry him around all day and not even notice.

As I noted before, he's listed at (176, 74) so is roughly the same size as Spriggs (175, 76) not a heap smaller than Crouch (174, 78). Would be nice to see another 4-6kg on though.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
not a heap smaller than Crouch (174, 78).

And I'm sure I've heard Aker say he does carry Crouch around the whole match.

On the weight issue - Voss wrote an interesting piece in the Age at the weekend about staging for frees. He was saying how difficult it is to push an 80 or 90 kg man over yet they go down like cardboard cutouts. So I guess he has watched Aker play.

[originalswan]

The problem with waiting for a midfield star to come around is that by the time the younger players are ready the "older" forwards will be close to retirement.

It seems to be a never ending dilemma, continually lacking in certain areas and just not good enough overall.

[Plugger46]

I've had enough of Roos' familiar sayings such as "we don't have the stars that other teams do". We're definitely not the best side going around, but our best players are as good as most sides'. Hall, O'Loughlin, Goodes, Williams, Kirk, Barry ... Pretty handy bunch of footballers there. It's the 2nd and 3rd tier players that let us down. I wonder how Hall and co feel, when Roos says that we don't have any "stars".

[Snowy]

Don't know why players Sprigg's size get drafted. You have to be a gun if you're under 180cm. Wouldn't call Barry a star the way he's playing at the moment.