LRT v Vogels

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by Sean
Even if he does do what you say, isn't it a good thing if he gets away with it? Silvagni made a career out of it - and Scarlett very seldom spoils without some kind of overlooked infringement these days.

I agree completely, I wasn't being facetious when I said I was concerned with the fairness with which he spoils. Although I was when i suggested be learnt spoiling from the AFL rulebook. No one reads that ~ certainly not the umpires.
So yes I think one of the senior players should give him a tutorial on unbalancing his opponent in the air and jogging arms.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by barry
A rather sanitised view of some pretty scathing criticisms you've dished out to the young bloke.

Such as? What are these 'scathing' criticisms I've made on the RWO forum?

Or are you simply focussing on the joke thread "LRT is to AFL"?

You've been branding me an "LRT-hater" since the lead up to the Essendon game, which was the first time I commented on him. This is an obsessive protection of your boy!

You refuse to acknowlegde anything positive that LRT does, going so far to claim Morgan clearly beat him when in reality it was a dead heat.

"In reality"... LOL - I had a view, which I'm allowed to have.

Even those in the pro-LRT camp recognise his current shortcommings.

I thought he was "great" and "fantastic"...?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sean
Disagree. If his spoiling was fairly ordinnary then he would struggle defensively at AFL level - he hasn't had a bag kicked on him yet. If he was going over the shoulder, knocking the arms away or crashing into players he would have frees paid against him. Even if he does do what you say, isn't it a good thing if he gets away with it? Silvagni made a career out of it - and Scarlett very seldom spoils without some kind of overlooked infringement these days.

If he gets away with it great. However, I wonder how long he will.

It's one person isn't it? You seem to do your fair share of "branding" on here.

Mainly one, but I think there are a couple of others.

I agree with most of that except that he's not developing. It's 9 games now and he hasn't had a bag kicked on him. His disposal was also much better yesterday. Surely there is development happening?

There is some development, but it's too slow IMO. Hasn't really played a full game on anyone who's likely to kick a bag on him.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Hasn't really played a full game on anyone who's likely to kick a bag on him.

Which raises the issue of next week, the Saints may have Hamill, Gehrig and Riewolt all playing.

[Sean]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
If he gets away with it great. However, I wonder how long he will.

I would say that it's more likely that he would give away frees now rather than in the future because like most sports the "rookies" get treated much more harshly. The umpires were also focusing on it a lot this season so with a bit of luck he should be OK.

There is some development, but it's too slow IMO. Hasn't really played a full game on anyone who's likely to kick a bag on him.

True but that's what happens with most players of his experience. They'll be protected from the best players. Hall very seldom has a young defender on him - for example, the Demons used their CHF rather than their young CHB.

It is definitely the test that LRT needs to pass to prove to me that he has "made it". It would be nice to actually get a long way ahead in a game so that he could get a run on a really good player - but that's never going to happen

[NMWBloods]

What appeals about LRT is his height and athleticism. The way he ran out of defence and kicked the ball long to MOL was very nice. However, it remains to be seen whether that is something he can repeat or something unusual - even a weekend hacker can hit the perfect drive now and again. He has the height and leap to compete superbly in the air, but seems to lack judgement on where the ball is going.

As I've said numerous times, these skill and decision making parts of his game do not appear to be progressing enormously at the moment. Perhaps they will in the future, but it's still a big ask. Still worth persisting while we have nothing to replace him with.

He may become an okay footballer, but I'll be amazed if he becomes a very good one.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by barry
Plus I think its a bit of a stretch to assume Morgan would have marked the one Nicks spoiled.

Agreed. LRT was going to give a free away.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by Ruckman
Which raises the issue of next week, the Saints may have Hamill, Gehrig and Riewolt all playing.

Leo will be looking forward to plaing on Fraser again, and I think Hammill would provide LRT with an "education" but Schauble on Riewolt could be a worry.

[ugg]

Craig Bolton will take one of the 3.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Ruckman
Which raises the issue of next week, the Saints may have Hamill, Gehrig and Riewolt all playing.

C Bolton on Hammill.

Schauble on Gehrig.

Barry on Riewoldt.

[ugg]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
C Bolton on Hammill.

Schauble on Gehrig.

Barry on Riewoldt.

Gehrig and Riewoldt will be too fast for Schauble. The best matchup for him is Hamill. Barry will get Gehrig after doing well on him, and CBolton should get Riewoldt.

[NMWBloods]

Gehrig doesn't really move around a lot - simply relies on his strength to outmark his opponents.

Hamill is way too quick for Schauble. He's only a little guy and very nippy - more suited to Bolton.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Gehrig doesn't really move around a lot - simply relies on his strength to outmark his opponents.

I believe his modus operandi, despite all the work on the peck deck in recent years, was the lead.

[ugg]

He used to play on the wing for the Eagles, pace is definitely one of his assets.

[barry]

Reiwolt is carrying an injury, and is hearing footsteps. We need to get some uncordinated mad man in there to scare the bejesus out of him. So that everytime he goes for the ball he's thinking: "Where is that nutcase going to hit me now".
Answer: LRT. Bold and imaginative.

Look what it opens up:
Schauble v Gehrig - can wrestle all day in the goal square.
Barry v Hammil - Barry will run off him as easy as.
This also frees up Bolton to be 3rd-man up anywhere he wants, and Kennelly to run like the wind.