Robert Walls

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
The key difference is that back in 2003 the risks came off in our favour.

And now we aren't taking any risks meaning we don't give ourselves the opportunity to have risks come off in our favour. I'll roll out the old cliche Nothing ventured nothing gained.

[Diego]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
The bit where he says that Roos has gone more defensive than before. That somehow he was brilliant in 2003 and crap now... er its the same team you all wrote off in 2003 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, including that famous 2003 QF. Its the same gameplan. Malthouse, Eade and Laidley have said as much publicly. Oh they were great back then but crap now. Well hindsight is always 20/20.

The bit where he says its "great to see Terry Wallace letting his players play attacking footy". News flash: they lost not only their game last night but arguably their best player. So for all that "attacking flair" we'll see if they win the GF this year or not. And lets not forget that Tezza is the same coach who took the Bulldogs to within a kick of the 97 GF and then no better for the next five years. So its not like his record is any better than Roos at this point, even if the commentators have a ball watching the games they play.

The bit where he forgets that game plans have to be followed before coaches can be held accountable. Its not like Roos said: "Bucky, when you are running at goal and you have an easy left foot kick, make sure you miss it left. We will apply more pressure that way." Or: "Craig, at the kick out, ensure you kick it to Milne. Having a set shot for goal will put more pressure on them."

The truth is that he has a set agenda. Sydney dont play the way a St Kilda play (even though we are equal on the ladder, Robert, you idiot), because our "gameplan sucks". We also dont have a plethora of first round draft picks, or three NSW umpires at our games. Get off the bandwagon Bobbie... you're starting to sound like Eddie.

You are one sad little dilusional supporter. I was at the game tonight and half way through the 2nd qrt i felt a sensation, a feeling i have had not had in a long time watching the swans. I felt annoyed and bored.

I came home and watched the last qrt and what Robert Walls said is spot on.

By playing a game that just lets us be on the fringe on the 8 and then bomb out in the first week does not do any wonder for our recruiting. Always chasing their own tail this friggen club.

[Wil]

Originally posted by Schneiderman
The key difference is that back in 2003 the risks came off in our favour.

Thats pretty meaningless. You have to give the forwards opportunity to, well I guess, to be able to make mistakes. We dont. For us to win every inside 50 needs to be a goal.

[Mike_B]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
Dont think the game plan was any different from the last three weeks, just the execution was well below par.

I'm not talking about our gameplan of 3 weeks ago, I'm talking about our gameplan from 2003.

I agree that we have been trying to play a more open style in the past few weeks, but compared to what we served up in 2003 with virtually the same list, even the last few weeks have been defensive in comparison.

[Schneiderman]

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Originally posted by Diego
By playing a game that just lets us be on the fringe on the 8 and then bomb out in the first week does not do any wonder for our recruiting. Always chasing their own tail this friggen club.

I think you're right. Go ring Roos on Monday and tell him that "playing a game that just lets us be on the fringe on the 8 and then bomb out in the first week does not do any wonder for our recruiting"

Then tell him that he should instead "play a game that wins us the Grand Final"

[Diego]

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Originally posted by Mike_B
even the last few weeks have been defensive in comparison.

The win against Port could back that up. A defensive win for sure.

[Wil]

Simply by moving Leo Barry into a 100% negating position on the field is a concede by Roos that we no longer play attacking football.

[Reggi]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
I think you're right. Go ring Roos on Monday and tell him that "playing a game that just lets us be on the fringe on the 8 and then bomb out in the first week does not do any wonder for our recruiting"

Then tell him that he should instead "play a game that wins us the Grand Final"

Maybe to compensate for how boring the team is they could start putting more more puzzles and crosswords in the Football Record.

Maybe our players should use NO DOZ

[Schneiderman]

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Originally posted by Mike_B
I'm not talking about our gameplan of 3 weeks ago, I'm talking about our gameplan from 2003.

I agree that we have been trying to play a more open style in the past few weeks, but compared to what we served up in 2003 with virtually the same list, even the last few weeks have been defensive in comparison.

I disagree. I think our application has been worse, our confidence has been weaker, and our skill-level is abysmal. Bucky should have kicked that running goal, Goodes should have nailed both of his efforts at goal, ROK should have slotted his, Ball "used to be a great kick for goal"... etc.

We had handballs miss targets regularly, kicks to marking players go high or land short, tackles get missed, tackles get forgotten (god I hate that), marks dropped etc.

If the the Australian Cricket Team dropped this many catches or hit this many shots straight to a fielder, would you blame "the gameplan". No.

[Mike_B]

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Originally posted by Reggi
Maybe to compensate for how boring the team is they could start putting more more puzzles and crosswords in the Football Record.

Maybe our players should use NO DOZ

Sudoku would go well! And maybe they can put vouchers in the record for fans to get discounted No Doz.

[Mike_B]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
If the the Australian Cricket Team dropped this many catches or hit this many shots straight to a fielder, would you blame "the gameplan". No.

But you may consider making changes to the XI right???

[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by Wil
Simply by moving Leo Barry into a 100% negating position on the field is a concede by Roos that we no longer play attacking football.

Did you watch Round 11 last year?? The run Leo got off the lumbering Gherig was critical to our success. Cant blame the guy for trying the same trick. Didn't work out this time and I think Leo has played the worst two weeks of his year these two weeks (coincidentally as Captain).

[barry]

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Originally posted by Schneiderman
I disagree. I think our application has been worse, our confidence has been weaker, and our skill-level is abysmal. Bucky should have kicked that running goal, Goodes should have nailed both of his efforts at goal, ROK should have slotted his, Ball "used to be a great kick for goal"... etc.

The problem with our game plan even when it is working well, is that it requires such precision and concentration to execute, such that in the last 2 years it has been shown to be unsustainable through a finals campain since a finals campain usually means 3 or 4 cut throat games against quality opposition.

It just wont work.

[Schneiderman]

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Originally posted by Mike_B
But you may consider making changes to the XI right???

Oh yes.

Bucky out. Give Schneider a run instead.

Bevan out. Bring back Spriggs or Moore.

Vogels at CHB instead of LRT (even if only for a quarter or two).

Blood another young midfielder instead of McVeigh. I really like the kid and think he has potential, but he needs a lot more work, and I doubt another youngster would/can play worse.

[Guzzitza]

I think Walls is spot on. Hate to say it, but its true. We have no chance of winning a premiership this way.
His analysis is correct. Every week we kick into the F50 out towards the boundary, and wonder why we cant score. Then we try and chip to someone in close, and usually they are under pressure and in traffic - and the ball gets turned over. If you going to deliver it so few times into the F50 you have to at least have the ball delivered towards the goal square to bring your crumbers into play, and to give ur forwards a chance of kicking a goal. SImple stuff. Yet it doesnt happen. Makes it frustrating, and yes, tonights game was boring.