Resting Players

[Schneiderman]

Of course if we win by 20 goals, Bazza kicks 11 and wins the Coleman, and we successfully work out a good strategy for the MCG...

I'm all for rest, but unless there are clear cut injuries or concerns of injuries, lets keep the players honed and hungry.

[BeeEmmAre]

Make no changes to anything.
Every team is capable of sneaking up on any given day and Hawthorn is no different.
Remember, Sydney def Essendon by 20 points and a week later Hawthorn def Essendon by 14 points.
That's a bit close for comfort.
However, why is anyone looking past this week and a game that can still get us third spot if we win, but will leave us vulnerable to fifth if we lose.
St Kilda goes to Perth this week and if they lose that and we win, we're third.
Third spot, Adelaide at Footy Park, win that and we wouldn't have to worry about Subiaco at all.
That's what I'm hoping for.
But lets beat the Kangaroos first.

[Jeffers1984]

I'm definately not for this. We need the best up and firing no matter who is the opposition.

[Jeffers1984]

Originally posted by BeeEmmAre
But lets beat the Kangaroos first.

Abso-Bloody-Lutely!

[stellation]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Before last week's game, Aker was saying that Roos rotation of player through the bench was a large part of the Swans' success as the opposition seem to always have fresh players on them. I bet we stick with the tried and true method - but there was a while last week when our bench was Goodes, Hall, Willo and Jude (I think).

Our rotation of midfielders through the bench made we wonder this- does anyone have stats on minutes played per game for the season? Kirky, in particular, seems to spend a lot of time off the field taking a breather and is ranked 21 in the AFL for total disposals with 434 and first in tackles with 107; 21.7 disposals and 5.4 tackles per game. I'd love to know how he ranks against the other guys in that top bracket of ball winners as far as actual time on ground goes. A relatively new stat in basketball that I quite like is "points/rebounds/assists/whatever you can measure per 48 minutes" so it gives you a chance to get a rough idea quickly of how a player getting little game time compares to someone playing a lot of game time, obviously it is easy to be great in tiny amounts compared to longer periods, but still an interesting stat. Is there an Internet available/free site that holds the average minutes played for an AFL player? Or even just the total minutes?

[anne]

Don't rest anyone. Look what happened when the whole team was rested - they couldn't get the momentum back and barely beat Collingwood and then lost to Richmond.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by stellation
Is there an Internet available/free site that holds the average minutes played for an AFL player? Or even just the total minutes?

The only place I've seen TOG is in the HSun (hard copy only).

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by BeeEmmAre
But lets beat the Kangaroos first.

Definitely. Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet again.

[stellation]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The only place I've seen TOG is in the HSun (hard copy only).

I feared as much, but at least it means I can make wild claims without them being easily disproven.

Kirky picks up more disposals and tackles than anyone else in the competition based on minutes played!

Now I'm okay unless somebody asks me for the source!

[ScottH]

Originally posted by stellation
I feared as much, but at least it means I can make wild claims without them being easily disproven.

Kirky picks up more disposals and tackles than anyone else in the competition based on minutes played!

Now I'm okay unless somebody asks me for the source!

Source???

[stellation]

Originally posted by ScottH
Source???

Damnit!

[giant]

Originally posted by ScottH
Source???

PIOMA Institute.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by giant
PIOMA Institute.

Is that like the Ponds Institute??

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by stellation
I feared as much, but at least it means I can make wild claims without them being easily disproven.

Kirky picks up more disposals and tackles than anyone else in the competition based on minutes played!

Tackles easily.

Not sure on disposals.

Other teams run rotations a fair bit too, so West, Hodge, Cross, and Hayes for example would possibly beat Kirk or be very close anyway.

[stellation]

Originally posted by NMWBloods

Other teams run rotations a fair bit too, so West, Hodge, Cross, and Hayes for example would possibly beat Kirk or be very close anyway.

They certainly do.

Some quick calculations of the total disposals + tackles to find major midfield movers and shakers gave (there might be others that swoop in and overtake these, I simply didn't bother checking)

Player  	Team	Total
Scott West	WB	629
Daniel Cross	WB	602
Lenny Hayes	SK	581
Luke Hodge	HW	579
Brett Kirk	SY	541
Luke Ball	SK	535

West probably has the biggest reliance on the one stat (disposals) but for such a major ball winner is still averaging over a couple a game of tackles a game which isn't too bad.