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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    #16
    This week should give an indication as to whether the Eagles' performance against Geelong was an abberation or whether the wheels have come off.

    Their only impressive performance of late was against Fremantle who have an inferiority complex against the Weagles anyway.

    If the Eagles lose - then we would have to inflict their 3rd loss in a row in the finals at Subi - tough ask!

    I'd feel more comfortable against the Crows at a ground that we seem to play well at.

    Swans seem to get lost in the wide open spaces at Subiaco.
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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    • sharp9
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2508

      #17
      Originally posted by hammo

      Swans seem to get lost in the wide open spaces at Subiaco.
      Small point, but Subiaco is not wide, it's long.

      Narrower than MCG and about the same as the SCG.
      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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      • Go Swannies
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2003
        • 5697

        #18
        Originally posted by sharp9
        Small point, but Subiaco is not wide, it's long.

        Narrower than MCG and about the same as the SCG.
        Not so - Subi is only 122 wide, SCG is 136 and MCG is 141. Telstra Stadium is only 118. So Subi is, in effect, a nature strip.

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        • The Undertaker
          On the Rookie List
          • Oct 2004
          • 517

          #19
          I would rather play at Football Park then Subiaco but i think Adelaide will beat West Coast this week and we'll be playing in Perth.

          It doesn't matter where we play-Bring it on!
          Well done Craig Bolton for getting the co- captaincy in 2008.

          Your determination,your tenacity and your under-rated skill is why you have become my favourite player!

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          • BayseysLeftBoot
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2004
            • 523

            #20
            Isn't AAMI a similar shape to Subi, just smaller? does anyone know the exact dimensions?

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            • Go Swannies
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2003
              • 5697

              #21
              AAMI 133m by 168m

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              • Schneiderman
                The Fourth Captain
                • Aug 2004
                • 1615

                #22
                I'm very confident WC will get up this week, and far more confident about our chances in the QF against Adelaide.

                Nevertheless, talk of "avoiding teams" is really unnecessary by now. We are clearly one of, if not THE, form sides of the competition right now. THEY should be fearing US, and I hope that's the message Roosy is getting through to the team.
                Our Greatest Moment:

                Saturday, 24th Sept, 2005 - 5:13pm

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                • snajik
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1115

                  #23
                  My preference is for neither but I'm very keen for a dry track in week 1 of the finals. Previous finals campaigns have invariably been derailed by either dismal form in the last rounds of the home and away season, or through exhausting ourselves in week 1 by playing in trying conditions.

                  Our promising campaign of '98 saw us pipping St Kilda in a close one in wet conditions. The following week against Adelaide was also sodden. The Crows played on a dry track the previous week and thumped us. Last year we beat WCE in an electrical storm then played St Kilda who had played on a dry track with an extra day's rest against Brisbane.

                  Even in 96' we fell over the line against Hawthorn in week 1 after a tough rain-swept game against WCE in R22.

                  Give us dry conditions and we'll be fine. We can beat anyone as long as the playing field is level.
                  It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                  The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                  • SXP

                    #24
                    We are a bit lucky this weekend, because the weather in Melbourne will be great, but not in Perth where showers are forecasted for Saturday.

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                    • snajik
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1115

                      #25
                      Lake Subiaco. I like the sound of that.
                      It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                      The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #26
                        Originally posted by snajik
                        Lake Subiaco. I like the sound of that.
                        Not that bad.

                        Expect fine conditions today and Saturday though it will be cloudy at times. A
                        few showers are expected to develop overnight Saturday and persist through
                        Sunday as a cold front moves through Perth.

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                        • hammo
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 5554

                          #27
                          Since 2000, our record against West Coast and Freo at Subiaco -

                          2000 2 *Sub Sydney 12.10 (82) West Coast 10.10 (70) Won 12
                          2000 15 Sub Sydney 14.12 (96) Fremantle 20.3 (123) L -27
                          2001 2 Sub Sydney 15.14 (104) West Coast 13.11 (89) Won 15
                          2002 11 *Sub Sydney 13.11 (89) West Coast 15.12 (102) L -13
                          2003 2 *Sub Sydney 8.12 (60) Fremantle 12.14 (86) L -26
                          2004 8 Sub Sydney 15.7 (97) West Coast 18.16 (124) L -27
                          2004 17 Sub Sydney 14.7 (91) Fremantle 18.10 (118) L -27
                          2005 6 *Sub Sydney 8.11 (59) West Coast 15.14 (104) L -45


                          Since 2000 our record against Crows at AAMI -


                          2000 12 *AAMI Sydney 7.6 (48) Adelaide 14.14 (98) L -50
                          2001 16 AAMI Sydney 16.9 (105) Adelaide 7.14 (56) Won 49
                          2002 3 AAMI Sydney 13.6 (84) Adelaide 17.12 (114) L -30
                          2003 13 AAMI Sydney 8.12 (60) Port Adel 14.15 (99) L -39
                          2003 18 AAMI Sydney 14.9 (93) Adelaide 14.13 (97) L -4
                          2003 1QF AAMI Sydney 15.10 (100) Port Adel 13.10 (88) Won 12
                          2004 12 AAMI Sydney 8.12 (60) Port Adel 20.12 (132) L -72
                          2005 18 *AAMI Sydney 6.11 (47) Adelaide 8.6 (54) L -7

                          From http://www.allthestats.com/


                          So 2/8 at both venues since 2000 and on a 5 match losing streak at Subiaco.

                          Looking at these, I'd prefer to play at AAMI.
                          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hammo
                            Looking at these, I'd prefer to play at AAMI.
                            I think that is the general consensus on this board already.
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Tuesday
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2005
                              • 890

                              #29
                              Originally posted by snajik
                              We can beat anyone as long as the playing field is level.
                              Certainly beats playing uphill!

                              Both have proven themselves to be tough opponents, and this strength will increase exponentially come finals.

                              I don't believe the outcome of the H&A season games against the Crows or the Wiggles will mean a great deal come next week. It will be how much we have learned from them, and from others who have played them.

                              Preparation is everything.
                              On-field performance is everything.

                              No matter what gets thrown in their path, I believe (with quiet confidence) the Swans with triumph.

                              PS: Prefer Adelaide.
                              And you can't find nothing at all,
                              If there was nothing there all along.

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                              • Sanecow
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 6917

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tuesday
                                Preparation is everything.
                                On-field performance is everything.

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