Schneider tries to be too much of a "hero"

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  • legaff
    On the Rookie List
    • Sep 2005
    • 90

    Schneider tries to be too much of a "hero"

    Does anyone else think Schneider tends to be get a bit carried away in the moment sometimes and go for the glory? He is a good player, dont get me wrong. But i think he sometimes he tends to be a bit selfish and have a difficult shot when it may be better to pass it off.

    does anyone agree or disagree?
  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #2
    He has been known to blindly blaze away, but then again, his handball to MOL for the goal in the last quarter was intelligent team play.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Dave
      Let those truckers roll
      • Jan 2003
      • 1557

      #3
      He gets it right more often than not when in touch.

      He adds a bit of excitement.
      "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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      • legaff
        On the Rookie List
        • Sep 2005
        • 90

        #4
        I dont agree Dave. I think he gets it wrong about half of the time. He is very skilled, and can manouver well. But i think he is a shocking kick for goal especially from a decent range. I mean look at the shot he missed against west coast early on. A professional athlete should never completely miss the target from 30 m out.

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        • desredandwhite
          Click!
          • Jan 2003
          • 2498

          #5
          And I agree with both of you, funnily enough

          Dave said "when on song", and that's pretty much right. When he is firing, he'll kick something like 2.1 or 3.1 (just like his debut season) - when he is struggling, it might be 0.1 or 0.2, or maybe no scoring shots at all.

          It averages out I think. When he learns to settle before kicking properly, he is going to be a handful for opposition sides.

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9718

            #6
            What are your thoughts on O'Keefe? He certainly will never die wondering if he could have kicked a goal from pretty much any spot on any field he played on.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • Newbie
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2003
              • 720

              #7
              Dont mind if he is selfish now and then. He is not in the team to play it safe. Yes, he was played as a back pocket to understand the defensive value of the game but his full value is still his attacking flair. A selfish goal out of the blue would inspire the whole group. A lucky break going his way could change the complete course of the game.

              The way he went through in kicking that last goal shows a great deal of maturity.

              Back to the familiar ground with home crowd should help him. We might see something special from him this weekend.

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              • legaff
                On the Rookie List
                • Sep 2005
                • 90

                #8
                O'keefe is awesome. Strong hands, and a sharp kick for goal. He has really stepped up for us. I find that i don't really get much of a nervous feeling when he is kicking for goal. He is usually pretty reliable.

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                • Dave
                  Let those truckers roll
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1557

                  #9
                  From a set shot Schneids is not as good as on the run (a bit like Willo) but he has natural ability and thrives as one of those "hero" types.

                  He's OK IMO.
                  "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave
                    From a set shot Schneids is not as good as on the run (a bit like Willo) but he has natural ability and thrives as one of those "hero" types.

                    He's OK IMO.
                    We have a few blokes that from set shots you have to hold your breath. MOL and Goodesy are others who can miss easy shots
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                    • Bleed Red Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2057

                      #11
                      Originally posted by legaff
                      I dont agree Dave. I think he gets it wrong about half of the time. He is very skilled, and can manouver well. But i think he is a shocking kick for goal especially from a decent range. I mean look at the shot he missed against west coast early on. A professional athlete should never completely miss the target from 30 m out.
                      I think he suffers from expectations a bit, people remembering what he did earlier in his carear, so he tries to do it again. He'll get better with experience.

                      Proffesional athlete's miss those shots all the time. O'Keefe misses one every game that he could have passed off.

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                      • Sanecow
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6917

                        #12
                        Originally posted by legaff
                        O'keefe is ... a sharp kick for goal.
                        27 goals 31 behinds in 2005 Career worst form accuracy wise.

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                        • Mike_B
                          Peyow Peyow
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6267

                          #13
                          It's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm forever getting annoyed with the players who don't back themselves to take a shot at goal, look for the pass, miss the target and off goes the opposition up the other end of the ground.

                          Sometimes the shots at goal will come off, sometimes they won't. Sometimes the pass will have been the better option, sometimes it won't. Sometimes the pass to a teammate will find a target, sometimes it won't.

                          I'm sure as he continues to play he'll take the better option more often than not, and that's really all you can ask.

                          I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                          If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #14
                            Mark of a good player - recognising when to take a shot and when to pass off. And in either case, executing effectively!
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • Agent 86
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1686

                              #15
                              As for Schneids:

                              Sometimes you just have to back yourself to get the job done. If he'd tried giving it off from that posi than we'd be screaming at him to have a go.

                              As for ROK:

                              His hands are as good as any - but his kicking has been pretty average this year.

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