2011 Nominations

[Coastal Boy]

I just noticed UNSW have not been relegated from Division 1 though they came last. I realise the league has the power to promote or relegate who they want but seriously this has to be a joke considering the guidelines they presented. I would be filthy if I was St George as I assume they were forced to drop a division. IMO the whole guidelines to the promotion-relegation system must be offically scrapped and clubs should be notified that the system is not based on merit but what suits the league.

[BIGSHOW]

So who is in div2 for next season

[ShortHalfHead]

So who is in div2 for next season

Auburn
Camden
Manly
Norwest
Saint George
Balmain
Holroyd/Parramatta
Moorebank
Penrith
Sydney Uni

[Mudlark]

A top 5 finals series for the lower divisions is a good move

[mountainsofpain]

Div 2 is essentially the equivalent of the old SFA First Grade.

So Penrith, Parra, Nor-West and Moorebank are back together in the competition they competed unsuccessfully in (with a couple of exceptions) for many years. Add in Camden and Auburn, it makes six Western Sydney clubs in all, all fielding their top sides.

Add in the second and/or third sides of four other clubs and it should make for a very interesting competition, particularly with the long-term rivalry among the Western Sydney sides, which goes back a fair way in some instances.

[Pekay]

Div 2 is essentially the equivalent of the old SFA First Grade.

So Penrith, Parra, Nor-West and Moorebank are back together in the competition they competed unsuccessfully in (with a couple of exceptions) for many years. Add in Camden and Auburn, it makes six Western Sydney clubs in all, all fielding their top sides.

Add in the second and/or third sides of four other clubs and it should make for a very interesting competition, particularly with the long-term rivalry among the Western Sydney sides, which goes back a fair way in some instances.

Should be the closest division next year I reckon.

[ShortHalfHead]

I just noticed UNSW have not been relegated from Division 1 though they came last. I realise the league has the power to promote or relegate who they want but seriously this has to be a joke considering the guidelines they presented. I would be filthy if I was St George as I assume they were forced to drop a division. IMO the whole guidelines to the promotion-relegation system must be offically scrapped and clubs should be notified that the system is not based on merit but what suits the league.

St George were not in Div 1 last year. They finished 7th with five wins in Div 2. With a good bunch of juniors coming through, imagine they will be well and truly in finals contention this year. As Pekay said, I agree it should be a very competitive comp. Strangely enough, it contains just one Uni team. Being made up mainly of "Western Sydney" clubs, all of whom have had chequered pasts in the last ten years, it will certainly re-ignite some old rivalries. Six clubs fielding their firsts side, three sides with their seconds side and Sydney Uni with their thirds.
Disagree strongly about scrapping promotion/relegation. It's working !

[Henry]

It also appears that promotion and relegation will come into play in Premier Division from the end of 2012.

Wasn't that in reference to the Under 18 comp?

[DLH]

Wasn't that in reference to the Under 18 comp?

From what I understand from the Planning Meeting the other night, it applies to all competitions from the completion of the 2012 season.

[ShortHalfHead]

From what I understand from the Planning Meeting the other night, it applies to all competitions from the completion of the 2012 season.

That is correct. 18's Premier Cup now officially promotion/relegation (Even though it has worked out that way the last few years) Prem Div club who end up in the cellar in 2012 will be visiting Div One for a year (or more).

Details on sydney afl website www.sydneyafl.com.au

[tara]

The possiblility of the PD relegation thing I believe is subject to a number of things and infact could lead to the possibility of another sport opening up as well. At the end of the day I think it will all come down to the success or not of this new northern league.

[Ken Oath]

I re-iterate, with no allegiance, or personal dislike toward the Gong, but they?re inclusion in the TOP 2 divs is a bit of a ?hows a goin?.
They will come bottom of both division, it?s obvious. ONE win in either grade is the best. It?s friggin November and we all realistically know that 2 to 3 wins MAX is an emphatic season for them, before a ball is bounced in pre-season.
This is a massive injustice to every sherrin holding human between Melbourne and the equator.
Can anyone argue that the geographical situation of Wollongong is not their best asset? Besides their beautiful hurricane breeding ground, and that picturesque drive down ?Mount Uuuuusley?, I think it?s fair to say their geographical status, is/has been/will be, their ace of spades.
If so why does Ken argue? Because can we please have a normal system where the deserved rewards are applied to the deserved teams.

The Gong? Div 2 & 3 is competetive for them. Prem & 1? Not right.

Again, I sympathise with their ?situation?, but they?ve given the population of the Gong, they have access to more potential players, especiallty with the patriotic segregation card, so to be given a ?joker? card and an automatic card bugs me.
Again, no personal issue with the club, just the preferential treatment towards ?reacjing the desired AFL merket?. UGH.

[unconfuseme]

You tell 'em Ken! ... unfortunately it's like talking to Roger Daltrey in Tommy ... they are only playing one game!

[Mug Punter]

I re-iterate, with no allegiance, or personal dislike toward the Gong, but they?re inclusion in the TOP 2 divs is a bit of a ?hows a goin?.
They will come bottom of both division, it?s obvious. ONE win in either grade is the best. It?s friggin November and we all realistically know that 2 to 3 wins MAX is an emphatic season for them, before a ball is bounced in pre-season.
This is a massive injustice to every sherrin holding human between Melbourne and the equator.
Can anyone argue that the geographical situation of Wollongong is not their best asset? Besides their beautiful hurricane breeding ground, and that picturesque drive down ?Mount Uuuuusley?, I think it?s fair to say their geographical status, is/has been/will be, their ace of spades.
If so why does Ken argue? Because can we please have a normal system where the deserved rewards are applied to the deserved teams.

The Gong? Div 2 & 3 is competetive for them. Prem & 1? Not right.

Again, I sympathise with their ?situation?, but they?ve given the population of the Gong, they have access to more potential players, especiallty with the patriotic segregation card, so to be given a ?joker? card and an automatic card bugs me.
Again, no personal issue with the club, just the preferential treatment towards ?reacjing the desired AFL merket?. UGH.

Despite my allegiances to the Gong I have to say I agree with this illiterate rant....

Put some basic minimum standards re grounds in place and let the cream rise to the top.

I've said it before but the VAFA should be the model long term for Sydney AFL, if we could get promotion-relegation ona two team basis happening here that would be brilliant....

[Coastal Boy]

St George were not in Div 1 last year. They finished 7th with five wins in Div 2. With a good bunch of juniors coming through, imagine they will be well and truly in finals contention this year. As Pekay said, I agree it should be a very competitive comp. Strangely enough, it contains just one Uni team. Being made up mainly of "Western Sydney" clubs, all of whom have had chequered pasts in the last ten years, it will certainly re-ignite some old rivalries. Six clubs fielding their firsts side, three sides with their seconds side and Sydney Uni with their thirds.
Disagree strongly about scrapping promotion/relegation. It's working !

Yeah sure, St George were not in div 1 in 2010 but we have better memories than that and remember they were there the year before. UNSW was no better last year than St George were the year before but the outcome was very different. A promotion-relegation system IMO should be black and white regarding who goes up and down. That's the only fair way. If not, scrap the notion completely and indicate that the league will reassign teams to different comps each year according to what is best for the league. The league has previously threatened to demote multiple teams from div 1 if they were uncompetitive but then this year they don't demote a non-performing bottom team. From my understanding Balmain and Campbelltown asked to drop a division but St George did not. Put it this way, if you are the Gong, East Coast or Wests and come last in division 1 next year are you fair to assume on this years decision that relegation would be grossly unfair????