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  • Jupiter
    Warming the Bench
    • Sep 2010
    • 243

    Originally posted by cos789
    Totally agree and could I suggest that only a few clubs would "qualify" for a league-reserves-colts style structure.
    Straight off the bat - every Prem Div except Bats has that structure/could have it.

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    • saviour01
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2013
      • 932

      Originally posted by Jupiter
      Straight off the bat - every Prem Div except Bats has that structure/could have it.
      A lot would have more than just the 2 senior sides.

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      • Pekay
        Well retired, still sore
        • Sep 2004
        • 2134

        Originally posted by Jupiter
        Straight off the bat - every Prem Div except Bats has that structure/could have it.
        UTS would love to be forced down again. More flags for the sheds!

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        • Benchwarmer
          Pushing for Selection
          • Oct 2010
          • 72

          Originally posted by Pekay
          UTS would love to be forced down again. More flags for the sheds!
          Maybe just give the half a dozen flags and let them write whatever division, year or competition they like, hang them in the rooms .
          Then put them in the correct divisions and make them compete where they should be . Get back to being fair to all clubs.
          How Div 3 can be a 9 team Comp when Uts won the div 4 flag by a mile just doesn't stack up.
          Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

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          • Pekay
            Well retired, still sore
            • Sep 2004
            • 2134

            Would love to see a return of some kind of pre-season lightning comp somewhere in Sydney or NSW. And not some poorly thought out AFL9s comp that no-one cares about.

            Wasn't that long ago that Dubbo had their comp, Sapphire Coast ran one out of Batemans Bay as far back as 2010. I think Uni New England still run the Tablelands Cup up north as well.

            Wouldn't take much to get off the ground, if Hawkesbury Sports Council would give us summer access to the main ground at Bensons we'd give it a nudge, 2 grounds, 4 change rooms and a clubhouse.....only a few issues to get around, such as the smell of turf farms and flies as big as Blackhawks.

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            • Nuttsy
              Warming the Bench
              • Dec 2012
              • 117

              Originally posted by Pekay
              Would love to see a return of some kind of pre-season lightning comp somewhere in Sydney or NSW. And not some poorly thought out AFL9s comp that no-one cares about.

              Wasn't that long ago that Dubbo had their comp, Sapphire Coast ran one out of Batemans Bay as far back as 2010. I think Uni New England still run the Tablelands Cup up north as well.

              Wouldn't take much to get off the ground, if Hawkesbury Sports Council would give us summer access to the main ground at Bensons we'd give it a nudge, 2 grounds, 4 change rooms and a clubhouse.....only a few issues to get around, such as the smell of turf farms and flies as big as Blackhawks.
              Trumper Cup 11 a side was great when I first came into Seniors

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              • tara
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2005
                • 1514

                Originally posted by Nuttsy
                Trumper Cup 11 a side was great when I first came into Seniors
                There was the rosedale cups for preseason comps as well. Kinda at ods with rosedale being a cricket ground

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  Originally posted by Pekay
                  Would love to see a return of some kind of pre-season lightning comp somewhere in Sydney or NSW. And not some poorly thought out AFL9s comp that no-one cares about.

                  Wasn't that long ago that Dubbo had their comp, Sapphire Coast ran one out of Batemans Bay as far back as 2010. I think Uni New England still run the Tablelands Cup up north as well.

                  Wouldn't take much to get off the ground, if Hawkesbury Sports Council would give us summer access to the main ground at Bensons we'd give it a nudge, 2 grounds, 4 change rooms and a clubhouse.....only a few issues to get around, such as the smell of turf farms and flies as big as Blackhawks.
                  It was a great concept and top PR for the comp.

                  And usually an opportunity for a club a year to make some really good money out of the catering.

                  As a general rule the club would provide the venue and the club's entry fees would pay the umpires. Any sponsorship the league could attract plus some league funding would then go to a prize but the net expense for the league would be $5,000 absolute tops.

                  It was best suited to multi ground venues - Hawkesbury and Mac Uni would be well suited, not sure of any other multi ground venues out there.

                  If you had 8 teams, you throw them into two groups of four with three group games, semi-finals and ranking matches and then a final. So the winning club could play five matches. Which seems like a lot but it's not really if you made them 12.5 minute halves.

                  There'd be two lots of six matches in the pool matches so with a five minute break and ten minutes between matches you'd get them finished in four hours (9.00 am to 1.00 pm). An hour lunch break followed by the semis and final and you'd all be wrapped up by 4.00pm.

                  Div 2 Clubs on the Saturday and Div 1 Clubs on the Sunday

                  Too simple a concept?
                  Last edited by Mug Punter; 27 February 2016, 02:09 PM.

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                  • Seagull
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 39

                    Originally posted by Pekay
                    UTS would love to be forced down again. More flags for the sheds!
                    Haha, some of your best work, Pekay.

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                    • Mug Punter
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3325

                      Originally posted by Pekay
                      UTS would love to be forced down again. More flags for the sheds!
                      They are without doubt the best advertisement AGAINST divisionalisation

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                      • Pekay
                        Well retired, still sore
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 2134

                        Originally posted by Seagull
                        Haha, some of your best work, Pekay.
                        I'm a bitter old man. Fatherhood is slowly mellowing me however. And there's a tinge of jealousy as well, it's been a decade since we won anything!

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                        • ZaccyJ
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 19

                          Originally posted by Mug Punter
                          They are without doubt the best advertisement AGAINST divisionalisation
                          I remember prior to divisionalisation running out for my first Seniors game against Nor-West, winning by 22 goals and PK having 17 kicked on him. They were the best of days!

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            Originally posted by ZaccyJ
                            I remember prior to divisionalisation running out for my first Seniors game against Nor-West, winning by 22 goals and PK having 17 kicked on him. They were the best of days!
                            That team you mention wouldn't be in the Div1/Div 2 SFL/SFA comps in the hybrid model that RWO are proposing, it would be in one of the divisionalised comps below.

                            The clubs in the top two "traditional divisions" would be expected to take a club based approach and if a side copped the occasional hiding then so be it, that's football. Any club that wasn't able to handle the rigours of such a comp or had insufficient depth would probably get relegated naturally anyway. In any event it's quite rare for a team with a strong first grade to not also have a decent reserves too so I doubt there's be an issues like the one you mention. Since those days there's effectively an additional three clubs in the mix in those two proposed comps that didn't exist back then (UTS, the Sydney Uni thirds and fourths and Randwick - it provides extra depth

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                            • Pekay
                              Well retired, still sore
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 2134

                              Originally posted by ZaccyJ
                              I remember prior to divisionalisation running out for my first Seniors game against Nor-West, winning by 22 goals and PK having 17 kicked on him. They were the best of days!
                              Zac my friend, either several concussions or the bright lights of the stage have dimmed your memory.

                              My old mate Thainy had kicked 10 goals on me to half time. With the delivery he was getting from the mids, a one armed kid from Rwanda would've pulled those marks down! I did cover Thainy's face in his own concoction of belt grip and vasoline that he had applied to his guernsey. It eased some of the pain.

                              I was switched to full forward at half time due to massive blood loss from my nether regions. Thainy is not a gentle man. From there, I took quite a hanger on Mints' shoulders on the 50m line and proceeded to bomb a goal from outside the 50. Minutes later, I crumbed a pack after a very rare foray into our forward line and kicked a right foot goal. Opposite foot goals are worth two, for defenders playing forward, they should be worth 3.

                              Thainy went on to kick another 7 in the second half and seal a Bats club record I believe.

                              NOR WEST JETS 2.1 4.1 7.3 10.3-63

                              UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY 7.5 12.10 19.12 28.13-181

                              Not a fun day, but you have to remember the good and bad parts.

                              The missus sometimes asks why I wake up screaming 'Thainy nooooooooooo' sometimes. Gets a bit weird.

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                              • Pekay
                                Well retired, still sore
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 2134

                                That was a tough season for us and Penrith. If divisions didn't come in the following year I doubt either would be around now.

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