2017 Player & Coach Comings and Goings - Who's Going Where?

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  • saviour01
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2013
    • 932

    Originally posted by justabaraker
    Yes, I wondered that too when I was checking my typing...but I stuck with it.
    Firstly, of the 60+ teams in men's Sydney footy, only three have been relegated from last year - and two of them are ECE teams. You might say that's just a re-adjustment and that might be so, but it means that the lower teams are playing lesser opposition and that doesn't sharpen them up for higher things.
    Secondly, Norths and Manly achieved whatever they achieved last year with the same structure that they have this year so will carry on with that. Whereas ECE will have to adjust to diminished reserves and presumably less depth. Compare that to Penno, who now has Prems + Div 1 +Div 2 - presumably stronger depth.
    But you can say that depth isn't everything and I would nod my head in agreement.

    And now that you've popped your head over the parapet TimF, as one who seems to be up-to-speed on matters Purser, how are you seeing ECE circa 2017 ?
    Their div 1 only won 1 game last year. They obviously didnt have too much depth then and it didnt bother them.

    New scoreboard installed at olds. Looks the goods. Cant wait for a kick tomorrow, the field is looking immaculate.

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    • Norris Lurker
      Almost Football Legend
      • Jan 2003
      • 2981

      Manly won back to back flags with reserves in Div 2, so it's not an impossible handicap. But with the depth at North Shore, they'll have some Premier Division standard players in Div 2. Apparently they asked to go up but were knocked back.
      But only lower than that for a reserves would be an issue. Campbelltown had their magoos in Div 4 in their last couple of years as a Prem club; for a fringe player the difference from week to week would be enormous.

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      • Tom Wills
        Warming the Bench
        • May 2008
        • 478

        Any update from the weekends practise matches?
        Is anyone from North Shore able to give some feedback on losing to the Swans Academy by 10 goals - surely not at full strength?

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        • saviour01
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2013
          • 932

          Beat Camden convincingly as expected.

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          • barracuda
            Regular in the Side
            • Jun 2016
            • 551

            Originally posted by Tom Wills
            Any update from the weekends practise matches?
            Is anyone from North Shore able to give some feedback on losing to the Swans Academy by 10 goals - surely not at full strength?
            I went to the game and I am not sure of the strength of North Shore. I recognized a few prems players. The swans team is well ahead of the bombers in preparation as they play GWS in a couple of weeks time as part of the Div 2 state comp. As a result they were sharper and a bit quicker.

            Overall it was a good game, with good physical intensity, and I think North Shore enjoyed the hitout. Given all the swans players are aligned with a prems team, the swans team is almost an under 18s prems rep side anyway.

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            • Mug Punter
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2009
              • 3325

              Originally posted by bomber.
              I've heard July. Last game is scheduled for 29/7. So hopefully not before that!!

              Last game on the on old deck and the old club rooms is vs St George. Should be a cracking day.
              Your view on playing on a synthetic pitch?

              A genuine question before the usual knobs abuse me....

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              • justabaraker
                Regular in the Side
                • Jul 2012
                • 972

                Originally posted by Footy Barista
                I disagree, North Shore have to be raging Favourites they have recruited heavily and were not far off with their team from last year.
                They have recruited Erol Sertbas. He came from North Shore and has been a regular in the Sydney Uni NEAFL team for the last few years.
                This is a serious pick-up.

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                • bomber.
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 163

                  Originally posted by Mug Punter
                  Your view on playing on a synthetic pitch?

                  A genuine question before the usual knobs abuse me....
                  The opinion of blokes that have had a run on them is that the latest synthetic stuff is very good. Good to run and land on and plays well. Have also heard it's reduces injuries. Will definitely be a big improvement on Gore Hill from about June on anyway!!

                  Re Erol Sertbas - good in for sure. Jack Campbell and Zach Fyffe also back from Sydney Uni. Fyffe might be playing a bit of NEAFL though.

                  Got a few other ins too, but win a few lose a few. 3 have gone interstate, one or two o/s and looks like 6 or 7 possibly at Sydney Uni NEAFL, plus 5 or 6 at the Swans. That'll test depth for sure.

                  Love us finally being in the conversation, but you'd think we'd have to show a fair bit before we'd get alongside ECE or St George for flag favouritism. St George beat us by plenty in the prelim and were comfortably beaten themselves by ECE, so we've got a lot of improving to do.

                  Flag favourites have to be ECE, especially with Stubbs back, then St George. Agree the comp should be more even this year too, so outside of those two, no guarantees for the 5.

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                  • 5yearplan
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 272

                    I think this season will be more even on a number of fronts, St George from reports very fit lost a few and gained some, ECE the same, North Shore the recruiting from all accounts has been driven very hard and they were up there last year, Wests gained some quality so will be a much better team, Easts apart from losing a lot to NEAFL have done very well with some good young ins to the club, Pennant Hills always competive, Manly no one has reall heard much there got a gun coach just unsure on the cattle, UTS always a lot of ins and outs and Syd Uni with influx of kids and payers trying to play NEAFL will be interesting how many are there for the Prems side. I think it will be a lot close for all teams this season which is a good thing

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                    • Footy Barista
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 326

                      Originally posted by Mug Punter
                      Your view on playing on a synthetic pitch?

                      A genuine question before the usual knobs abuse me....
                      has it been approved???? I haven't heard of any senior footy in Australia been played on it?

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                      • andreww1
                        Warming the Bench
                        • May 2015
                        • 193

                        2017 Player & Coach Comings and Goings - Who's Going Where?

                        Originally posted by 5yearplan
                        I think this season will be more even on a number of fronts, St George from reports very fit lost a few and gained some, ECE the same, North Shore the recruiting from all accounts has been driven very hard and they were up there last year, Wests gained some quality so will be a much better team, Easts apart from losing a lot to NEAFL have done very well with some good young ins to the club, Pennant Hills always competive, Manly no one has reall heard much there got a gun coach just unsure on the cattle, UTS always a lot of ins and outs and Syd Uni with influx of kids and payers trying to play NEAFL will be interesting how many are there for the Prems side. I think it will be a lot close for all teams this season which is a good thing
                        I guess the other question that goes with all this is, is Premier Division, and Sydney AFL more broadly, a stronger comp than say 10 years ago?

                        We have had about 7 years of Swans and GWS Academy feeding players in to the comp, there has been a lot learnt in terms of better coaching techniques, 6 years of NEAFL, and player development and conditioning knowledge improves continually.

                        So are the players better? Are the coaches better? Is there more depth? Is The whole competition in Sydney stronger?

                        An important discussion topic I would have thought.


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                        Last edited by andreww1; 14 March 2017, 07:36 AM.

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                        • Pmcc2911
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2013
                          • 516

                          Just a thought, what is the difference between poaching and recruiting?

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                          • Footy Barista
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 326

                            Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                            Just a thought, what is the difference between poaching and recruiting?
                            $$$$$

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                            • bomber.
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 163

                              Originally posted by Footy Barista
                              $$$$$
                              Who do you reckon has the $$$$$?

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                              • Tim Freedman
                                Warming the Bench
                                • May 2008
                                • 236

                                Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                                Just a thought, what is the difference between poaching and recruiting?
                                The only difference is which side of the fence you are on.........

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