Season 2019

[5yearplan]

Women’s football is a moving beast. SHH no doubt has some sour grapes and like a lot of people in Sydney football he works hard but he isn’t the only one.

On another note apparently SWS doing very well too and stepping up a lot according to a few. That is very good to see as it is a gap in that region so let’s hope Tara things keep moving in right direction for you.

Don is right pathways and development is good. Most clubs do it right just some better than others.

[tara]

Embarrassed for what Tara? Driving pathways and development?

No publicly naming someone

[Blinkers28]

Record numbers down at Southern Power training last few weeks. Big turnaround for the club who were struggling a few years ago.

[ShortHalfHead]

Pull your head in ShortHalfHead. 'Pretty dumb' your argument about Woman's football is all about finishing positions in recent times. AFL Sydney doesn't work on elevation/relegation. The growth is large and pathways need to develop. Get on the right page. Most people couldn't Corless what you think.

Thanks for your detailed insight and welcome to the forum, Don the Sash. I am sure you will be a positive and insightful contributor from here on in. Totally agree that the pathways require development, maybe Don has a more detailed outlook on how this is achievable. How do we develop the game that is fair an equitable to all community clubs and not via sweetheart agreements with those clubs in the top competition. It's easy to throw a few words together like "development" and "pathways" so hit us with your extensive plan. The AFL appears determined to, just like your namesake Don, to "Build a Wall" separating the outer West from the protected, highly favoured golden haired clubs. probably got some caps being made "Make Sydney AFL Great Again". Alone in Women's footy it is easy to identify the strategic positioning of the clubs. Sydney Uni, Newtown, UNSW, UTS, Wests make up five of the 8. Power, Mac Uni and now East Coast making up the remainder. In 2020 Newtown drop out, It was been proposed as a 10 team comp will be intoduced would guess that ECE neighbours, Penno, would get the nod along with North Shore. Manly in contention as well. A 15 year old Penrith player getting targetted by an AFL employee, advising as mentioned previously, that they had the spot, before applications received. Same one getting told she would get an exemption to play seniors, as the "messenger" clearly stated that as he works for the AFL and will get her approved. Her travel would involve about 300 kms a week to train and play. And great work, Don, on exposing me. Trouble is, most already knew who I am and I have never hidden it. Maybe need to work on that before you get into big school instead of checking out the designer labels attacked to the back of mum's skirt. So let's go in a full debate on the subject, check out your agenda and see if you have a strong case or otherwise. Up to you champ.

[The Runner]

Record numbers down at Southern Power training last few weeks. Big turnaround for the club who were struggling a few years ago.

Glad to hear that. Good club with good people at the helm. Hopefully Balmain are 2 years behind them on a similar trajectory.
There's so much value in these community clubs. Shame the AFL only seem to care about Prem Div, like Sydney Football means something more than a social kick.

[andreww1]

Glad to hear that. Good club with good people at the helm. Hopefully Balmain are 2 years behind them on a similar trajectory.
There's so much value in these community clubs. Shame the AFL only seem to care about Prem Div, like Sydney Football means something more than a social kick.

I think what Sydney AFL have done is put these clubs in a different structure so they aren’t competing with the large Premier Div clubs that they would always struggle to compete against. Gives them all a chance to achieve some on field success which creates a good environment to retain players and grow their club from within their local community.


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[Tom Wills]

Interesting see the move to align the women's competition with the Premier Division Comp aka Eagles up.

I can't help but think this will make stronger and stronger premier division clubs and stop a plutonium club ever making the leap to Premier footy.

It will be interesting to look back in 5 years to see what the health of Mac Uni, Blacktown, Parra, Power, Penrith, SWS and Balmain will be.
I know many of these clubs advocated for the plutonium division but will it result in the saying "be careful for what you wish for."

P.S. unashamed advocate of the old single comp with many Divisions structure.

[saviour01]

So with Sydney AFL shafting Penrith ECE get given 30k for having a womens team. Do ECE spend it on womens development? No they go and buy Salter for their prems. Still owe Sydney AFL 450k on an interest free loan.

Plutonium leagues in the west have no chance.

[Tim Freedman]

So with Sydney AFL shafting Penrith ECE get given 30k for having a womens team. Do ECE spend it on womens development? No they go and buy Salter for their prems. Still owe Sydney AFL 450k on an interest free loan.

Plutonium leagues in the west have no chance.

Saviour, I think you're confused with what club owes the league plenty of money. I know you are only new to the scene of AFL, so I will go over it again for you and hopefully it will sink in. Your club owes the league plenty from refusing to pay affiliation fees for many many years. I know you like to stick your head in the sand and your club will always deny it but every other club in the league knows it and every club wanted your club booted because of it. It was simply swept under the carpet by the league and your club have acted like sergeant Schultz ever since. #glasshouses

[5yearplan]

So with Sydney AFL shafting Penrith ECE get given 30k for having a womens team. Do ECE spend it on womens development? No they go and buy Salter for their prems. Still owe Sydney AFL 450k on an interest free loan.

Plutonium leagues in the west have no chance.

30K how great is that, the two new teams in 2020 will be chasing it for sure now.

Buying Salter how mad is that, you have some real inside information.

450k, the actual auditors must be really wrong on numbers with what is provided to members annually and is Audited as a requirement due to turnover of the club

#glasshouses agreed.



You guys least have started to get a Womens team now, just need to focus on yourselves , facts and focus on your own area for development.

[ShortHalfHead]

That may well be the case, Tim, however does not retract from Saviors comment. Since the demise of an annual report, which was a transparent document, all we know now is that the huge league bailout to East Coast is a "Confidential Commercial Agreement" All clubs play similar affiliation fees, but are treated very differently. $30k start up fund for the Eagles women plus massive non cash support?? Non Premier clubs no longer in line for Club championship, yet are forced to attend Phelan Medal nights. AFL modelling themselves on the great man himself. "I'm going to build a wall....and Western Sydney will pay for it"

Not heard a peep from our esteemed new member, Don the Sash. He has logged in a couple of times since his insightful opening post, so obviously getting together a detailed response.

I imagine a few platinum clubs will be on the improve next season. Colesy will work hard to get SWS back into finals contender and a very competitive outfit. I am sure Southern Power will be on the improve. Mac Uni are always a dark horse and keep things close to their chest whilst Parra have announced a new player coach, Jake Brazil returning to them after a stint with Blacktown, who have apparently lost a few key players, though the lure of employment opportunities always seems to get those holes filled again quickly

[5yearplan]

The 30ks start up fund??? where is this, do all prems clubs get it, there is no way the league would give 30k to any premier division club in cash and you would be a idiot to believe this would be the case. Non cash support not sure what this is?

Tims comment is right, and 450k please any club if the debt was that huge.... would fold wind up no board or anyone would jump in and take it on.

All clubs are supposed to pay affiliation fees, not all do and most dont on time.

Compulsory Phelan nights are interesting, I agree it is wrong to make a club take a certain amount of tables, but each club should have 1 being forced to pay for 3 or more isnt right.

Don has been quiet but a lot have been, was a cracker of a post and there wasnt a lot wrong with it to be honest. His comments have more truth in them than our good mate Saviour and are more factual too.

There are a lot more posts on here with complete garbage, false facts which come out all the time.

SWS is a great example on the lower division clubs doing well, great ground and a area which needs AFL to grow. Southern Power based on tweets shows some bigger numbers.

[Footy Barista]

Apparently UNSW are paying Dean Towers 450k f

[ShortHalfHead]

The 30ks start up fund??? where is this, do all prems clubs get it, there is no way the league would give 30k to any premier division club in cash and you would be a idiot to believe this would be the case. Non cash support not sure what this is?

Tims comment is right, and 450k please any club if the debt was that huge.... would fold wind up no board or anyone would jump in and take it on.

All clubs are supposed to pay affiliation fees, not all do and most dont on time.

Compulsory Phelan nights are interesting, I agree it is wrong to make a club take a certain amount of tables, but each club should have 1 being forced to pay for 3 or more isnt right.

Don has been quiet but a lot have been, was a cracker of a post and there wasnt a lot wrong with it to be honest. His comments have more truth in them than our good mate Saviour and are more factual too.

There are a lot more posts on here with complete garbage, false facts which come out all the time.

SWS is a great example on the lower division clubs doing well, great ground and a area which needs AFL to grow. Southern Power based on tweets shows some bigger numbers.

Haha. Love your passion 5year, those big nights at the Fiddler are taking a toll on you though. Say hi to your alter ego Donny. "Cracker of a post"???? It's a very well known fact about East Coast's debt with people high up in within the club admitting that the Seebeck years caused them huge drama and debt. Then there was the 20 year payment plan for Purser, though Kanebridge is probably funding that. And if you are not sure what non cash support is, comes down to logic, but being in the Hillsong precinct, logic is a dirty word.

[Don the Sash]

SHH, Apologise for being quiet. Some of us are busy and driving our own destiny in Sydney AFL. Your knowledge about other clubs is extensive. Im learning a lot. Thanks