Do journos actually watch the games...

[rastus]

Re: Re: Re: Do journos actually watch the games...

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I don't think there is anything like this at all.

I think it more the case that most journos have no idea.

I fully agree. I don't get a sense that we dislike Sydneysiders. In fact you are more likely to find other Melbourne club's supporters wanting Sydney to win rather than a opposition Melbourne club. Of course that is changing now that we are perceived as more of a threat to their own teams ladder postion.

[liz]

Originally posted by Snowy

BTW the Melbourne/Sydney rivalry is historical and the principal reason why Canberra is the national capital but I would have thought that most people these days are a tad over it. It can be media driven at times though.

I can understand it in the context of two separate colonies jostling for pre-eminence in the years leading up to Federation.

But as you say, it seems a bit out-dated now.

[MrRed]

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[Schneiderman]

Originally posted by Nico
I disagrre with another poster who said if went long we would have lost. If we went long Carlton would have panicked.

Our problem was when we were clear running down the wings we went sideways to contests rather than get it in quick to our forwards one out.

I think a lot of this has to do with where we are in the season. Last night was about controlling the game, playing like a team, and most importantly, winning.

We may well see a lot more risk taking as the season unfolds, and the best way to beat a flood is to kick over it to a powerful forward line. Unless the team is very good at clearing it out when the attack fails, since they dont have anyone to go to in their own forward line there is less risk of conceding goals at your own end.

[Guzzitza]

Re: Do journos actually watch the games...

what i really love, is that when Carlton were flooding..the commetnary team called it "ZONING BACK", when we did it... we were "FLOODING"

hmm .. seriously... do they think we are that daft we dont notice this stupid bias. I'm so over it. But i laughed in satisfaction when after "Shake Down the THunder" ended RObert Walls with his ugly mug appeared to start the game haha!! What a lead in to his ego show!

Originally posted by liz
... or do they just not understand football.

"Roos's liking for strangling opposing forward lines with extra numbers behind the ball ensured a low-scoring contest,"

No mention anywhere in this article about the Blues' extra 10 men in defence for much of the game.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E19742,00.html

[MrRed]

Re: Re: Do journos actually watch the games...

Originally posted by Guzzitza
what i really love, is that when Carlton were flooding..the commetnary team called it "ZONING BACK", when we did it... we were "FLOODING"

hmm .. seriously... do they think we are that daft we dont notice this stupid bias. I'm so over it.

Or how about when they show the sydney forward 50 empty? Not once when Carlton flooded last night did they do this. Not once.

I just am sick and tired of how the media is in this country and how much they manipulate situtations. You can thank a lot of simple Australians for being dumb enough to allow the media to do this.

The same happens when adelaide plays, they are a great defensive unit who get back in numbers and help out each other. The sign of a great defensive team. Yet the swans are just ubber flooders who are ruining the game.

Go figure!

[Glenn]

It is always Sydney who are responsible for any flooding, rule number one of any AFL "Journalist"
Of course we know this is not the case, but there will always be those that believe what they want to.

[MrRed]

Originally posted by Glenn
but there will always be those that believe what they want to.

That is the problem. That is why shows like ACA and TT have been around for ever. There is a big majority who seem to believe everything the media says and will defend them as fact till they are blue in the face.

It astounds me.

[Glenn]

In a AFL perspective whatever the Melbourne media spoon feeds to the masses, they will blindly accept it as gospel.
Just so happens one of there agendas is Sydney and flooding, it won't be the last time Sydney are accused of boring football this season (rightly or wrongly)

[LittleSchneider]

I dont understand why so many people complain about 'chipping round the back' - many times when we did remain patient and chipped across the back an opportunity opened up up the ground and we were able to make a penetrating kick forward and enter our attacking 50.
I thought the idea was good - it allowed us to control the game (tmepo and possession) which is something we definately haven't done so far this year.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Nico
Nick Davis must think he is a leper. How often he made space yet was ignored by the waxing midfield, who eventually kicked to a crowded half forward line. Why we dont kick it to the top the square quickly staggers me. Maybe when it eventually comes together that will follow, but you wouldn't want to be hanging by your neck waiting for that to happen.

It staggers me how often they ignore him. At one stage I think it was Buchanan running into the F50. Both Davis and O'Loughlin led. MOL was near the boundary line and Davis on a 45 deg angle. Both in the clear, both easy passes. It was passed to O'Loughlin. No wonder he can kick so many goals - he's our main target at full forward even when not the best option.

[Nico]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
It staggers me how often they ignore him. At one stage I think it was Buchanan running into the F50. Both Davis and O'Loughlin led. MOL was near the boundary line and Davis on a 45 deg angle. Both in the clear, both easy passes. It was passed to O'Loughlin. No wonder he can kick so many goals - he's our main target at full forward even when not the best option.

We have what could be 4 of the most prolific goal scorers going around in Hall, MOL, Davis and O'Keefe. It frustrates the hell out of me watching the players up the ground being so two dimensional in their delivery.

O'Keefe runs hard across half forward to offer an option, but to put it to Davis one out up front makes a lot of sense also. He would beat his opponent most times.

I just love watching Davis when he has the ball. He is so exquisitly skilled and balanced. Why we dont use him more more/better is beyond me.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Snowy
BTW the Melbourne/Sydney rivalry is historical and the principal reason why Canberra is the national capital but I would have thought that most people these days are a tad over it. It can be media driven at times though.

Sadly, I've found more of the Sydney/Melbourne rivalry on here than in real life. Most of the rivalry I have been involved in has been tongue in cheek with no bitterness at all.

But then I think that those who find the bias and beat up on it all of the time choose to do it and/or be offended.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Nico

I just love watching Davis when he has the ball. He is so exquisitly skilled and balanced. Why we dont use him more more/better is beyond me.

I reckon he is one of the most skillful players in the league, I love watching him when his team mates actually realise he is clear. He has it over the opposition skillwise for probably 99% of the players in the league.

[mocaholic]

Re: Re: Re: Do journos actually watch the games...

Originally posted by MrRed
Or how about when they show the sydney forward 50 empty? Not once when Carlton flooded last night did they do this. Not once.

I just am sick and tired of how the media is in this country and how much they manipulate situtations. You can thank a lot of simple Australians for being dumb enough to allow the media to do this.

The same happens when adelaide plays, they are a great defensive unit who get back in numbers and help out each other. The sign of a great defensive team. Yet the swans are just ubber flooders who are ruining the game.

Go figure!

Are you only just getting this?
In the 90's North Melbourne used Pagan's Paddock (think about what this means - all players behind the ball, with Carey one out. Flooding by another term.)
Adelaide uses it's fitness to get run hard back into defence
Brisbane generates its run from the backline.
Carlton gets numbers behind the ball.
....etc etc.

But Sydney flood.