Match Thread. Grand Final!!! Swans v Lions.

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  • crackedactor 01
    Regular in the Side
    • Jun 2020
    • 650

    After a few hours of calming down I tried to understand what Longmire said about our pressure being about 120 and theirs over 200 in the second quarter. even if you could not match their skill level why would your pressure be so low in the most important match of the year.? I then spoke to a physiologist friend and he believes a few players have mental issues and were showing signs of panic attacks. I am starting to belief this is true as North, West Coast and any other bottom sides would have beaten us today. This current side will never win a flag as they cannot handle GF pressure.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8061

      Originally posted by crackedactor 01
      After a few hours of calming down I tried to understand what Longmire said about our pressure being about 120 and theirs over 200 in the second quarter. even if you could not match their skill level why would your pressure be so low in the most important match of the year.? I then spoke to a physiologist friend and he believes a few players have mental issues and were showing signs of panic attacks. I am starting to belief this is true as North, West Coast and any other bottom sides would have beaten us today. This current side will never win a flag as they cannot handle GF pressure.
      Our pressure in that second quarter was like a pre season game. Just plain awful in the biggest game of the season.


      ??And it is patently clear the first one out the door should be our sports psychologist. No excuses for the players being utterly not at the races twice in 3 years like they have been.

      Should find a club that actually gets that right in any code and offer their relevant person whatever they want. We won't change that factor if we don't find a broom and start again
      ????
      ??
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16616

        Originally posted by mcs

        Our pressure in that second quarter was like a pre season game. Just plain awful in the biggest game of the season.


        ??And it is patently clear the first one out the door should be our sports psychologist. No excuses for the players being utterly not at the races twice in 3 years like they have been.

        Should find a club that actually gets that right in any code and offer their relevant person whatever they want. We won't change that factor if we don't find a broom and start again
        ????
        ??
        I believe the psychologist they have been working with this year is the lady who worked with the Tigers during their period of dominance.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8061

          Originally posted by liz

          I believe the psychologist they have been working with this year is the lady who worked with the Tigers during their period of dominance.
          Then we should try someone else then, or we accidentally got a temu knock off doppelganger by mistake haha.

          Something is not working within the walls of the footy club at the pointy end of the season. To see the same deer in the headlights performance today as 2 years ago was heart breaking.

          ???
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • lwjoyner
            Regular in the Side
            • Nov 2004
            • 917

            whilst i an dissapointed with the loss i am more disapointed in the majority of R&W posters, if u cnat stand to be a supporter go to nth and see what its like. I am 79 (bday early sept) so i had to what a long time fot us to win that premiership maybe most of u negative posters whould take a look at yourselves, the swans might be better off without u. go and watch and support Rugby league.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8061

              Everyone deals with disappointment in different ways.

              The 'your not a true supporter of you dare criticise' narrative above completely ignores that fact, and berating others for responding in a different way is a pretty sad thing to do.

              The fact there is a significant element in the fan base already saying 'get over yesterday and move on' says a lot about how some are very happy to be accept mediocrity, happy to accept being a laughing stock on the biggest day in the season, and happy to accept being near enough as good enough. If only they have put a bridesmaid trophy our cupboard would be overflowing.

              ?????Sure we are lucky to live in a period of relative success for the club. I think everyone can recognise that. But equally, that should come with higher expectations, and it's not unreasonable to be disappointed when the team serves up what they did yesterday - especially when it's a recurring nightmare. And as part of recognising that - negative views are neither unreasonable or unwarranted.

              GIven one can't possibly sat something negative abut yesterday... Then please do enlighten the great unwashed what the positives out of yesterday were?
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • UUaswan
                Warming the Bench
                • Sep 2024
                • 150

                5 GFs and 1 flag, 1 common denominator

                He has a role but it needs to be different than Head Coach. We cant be happy with attendance on GF Day.

                My rose coloured glasses had us winning that easily. If next time happens, It will be a casual week for me as I wont care about form, travel, injuries, opponent all ill worry about is Swans showing up.

                On a side note, Can't see how we don't chase Stringer now, need a presence up fwd, cant rely on a 100 goal midfield.

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                • Hotpotato
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2222

                  Oh dear, we are all so flat, the agony and the ecstasy of
                  following yr fav team. The media are getting stuck into us bigtime.
                  How are the St Kilda fans goin, is it
                  the end of our days being rusted on ?
                  Thank goodness I’m a teetotaller.

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                  • crackedactor 01
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2020
                    • 650

                    Just seen the Sam Newman video that has suggested the AFL place sanctions on Sydney or not trying in the 22 and 24 Grand finals. After watching a little bit of the reply and I cannot remember one act of desperation, I believe he was right. We did not even try!

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 3998

                      Originally posted by mcs
                      Everyone deals with disappointment in different ways.

                      The 'your not a true supporter of you dare criticise' narrative above completely ignores that fact, and berating others for responding in a different way is a pretty sad thing to do.

                      The fact there is a significant element in the fan base already saying 'get over yesterday and move on' says a lot about how some are very happy to be accept mediocrity, happy to accept being a laughing stock on the biggest day in the season, and happy to accept being near enough as good enough. If only they have put a bridesmaid trophy our cupboard would be overflowing.

                      ?????Sure we are lucky to live in a period of relative success for the club. I think everyone can recognise that. But equally, that should come with higher expectations, and it's not unreasonable to be disappointed when the team serves up what they did yesterday - especially when it's a recurring nightmare. And as part of recognising that - negative views are neither unreasonable or unwarranted.

                      GIven one can't possibly sat something negative abut yesterday... Then please do enlighten the great unwashed what the positives out of yesterday were?

                      We're all naturally disappointed but in order to move on with our lives, best to reflect on what is happening in other parts of the planet and realise this is not a big deal but essentially a first world problem.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8061


                        Originally posted by Blood Fever


                        We're all naturally disappointed but in order to move on with our lives, best to reflect on what is happening in other parts of the planet and realise this is not a big deal but essentially a first world problem.
                        When did RWO branch out into solving the world's problems?

                        Look I don't disagree. But this is a footy forum, we all follow passionately a chosen footy team. I think it's fair to be disappointed and frustrated for longer than 2 seconds haha.

                        Otherwise why bother following footy at all if it's all just inconsequential at the end of the day?
                        ?
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • andy0414
                          Pushing for Selection
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 71

                          Why is the mental side of afl becoming such a big issue. I dont remember it being an issue 20 years ago. The Swans were certainly capable of winning that game so why did they play so bad. Do other sports have this problem.
                          Where's the remote?

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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 650

                            Originally posted by andy0414
                            Why is the mental side of afl becoming such a big issue. I dont remember it being an issue 20 years ago. The Swans were certainly capable of winning that game so why did they play so bad. Do other sports have this problem.
                            They seem to have the mental strength of a five year old. The Bloods culture is well and truly dead.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by mcs


                              why bother following footy at all if it's all just inconsequential at the end of the day?

                              That is the point of following footy; that it is inconsequential in the larger scheme of things. We can direct our energy, both positive and negative, in ways we usually cannot in other social frameworks.

                              It's hard to comprehend how pathetic our pressure was when everyone knew it was the key to the game. Brisbane played like a team you would expect to play in a grand final. How can the Swans put ups suck little fight.

                              We were a high pressure team in the early part of the season, then slowly slipped away. We found that we could win games on scoring ability alone, while allowing the opposition to have the ball for a majority of the game. After going 13-1, we should remember that we finished the regular season 3-6. So we entered the finals in fairly poor form.

                              The players and coaches all said that our preparation was great, but clearly it was not. There seems to be some mental aspect of the game that we left behind and can't find our way back from. It's not understood internally, or one would think it would have been rectified.

                              I've been a Longmire fan for most of the journey, but am now thinking that it might be time for a change. To bring a team into the GH so ill-prepared to put up a fight, shows a serious deficiency somewhere beyond the players.

                              It wasn't that we lost that disappoints so much, but rather the way we lost. And it's hard to see how that gets gixed. It's not just a matter of shuffling around players.

                              PS: Sorry I don't post very often these days, but my vision is quite poor/ which has limited my ability to read and write.

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                              • Hotpotato
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2222

                                Thanks Ludwig, was hoping a bright soul would respond
                                to the inconsequential comment .
                                The performance of yr team is tied to yr mental disposition
                                for the week ahead in the H&A season, but after a dismal loss
                                in a Granny, everyone has to bear the burden for 5 months plus.
                                I’m clueless why the intensity and pressure was so lowball for
                                this one, however I’m sure they will work it out.

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