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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8543

    #61
    Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
    Seriously, make sure you're not chopping onions whilst watching this

    https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video...=1732600120001
    Yeah, it was a tough watch at times.

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    • KSAS
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2018
      • 1763

      #62
      Originally posted by Sandridge

      I thought the same thing, deja! Why would Horse quit because of a dispute with a player who is no longer at the club?
      Gerard Healy on SEN last night said he'd be staggered if Horse had a serious fall out with Parker, after going through a tough period getting back into the side from injury & suspension whilst the team was flying. He went on to stay that he would still play Parker ahead of Adams at start of next season had he not gone to North, stating Adams needs to work earn his spot back. They were hoping to speak with Tom Morris but he wasn’t available.

      They also interviewed Andrew Pridham, which was mostly going over what was already covered at yesterday's pressers. However, the question was raised whether Longmire"s new role will be under the soft cap with consideration also given to senior assistant role being filled. Andrew just said he didn't believe it will be an issue without elaborating any further.

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      • KSAS
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2018
        • 1763

        #63
        Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
        Seriously, make sure you're not chopping onions whilst watching this

        https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video...=1732600120001
        The most emotional & intense player meeting i've seen recorded at the club. The faces on the players said it all. Good to see Horse's family also present plus Basil Sellers & Peter Weinert. Big day for Horse & all Swans fans. One for the Archives.

        P.S. Roos has a statue. Thinking whether the naming the new Training HQ after Longmire is a fitting tribute, considering the "Pass The Baton' motto hanging in the facility was his idea.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8490

          #64
          Originally posted by KSAS

          The most emotional & intense player meeting i've seen recorded at the club. The faces on the players said it all. Good to see Horse's family also present plus Basil Sellers & Peter Weinert. Big day for Horse & all Swans fans. One for the Archives.

          P.S. Roos has a statue. Thinking whether the naming the new Training HQ after Longmire is a fitting tribute, considering the "Pass The Baton' motto hanging in the facility was his idea.
          Good idea. Although the way he's been talking about his love of food, he might be satisfied with the Longmire Lunchroom

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          • imuninformedtwo
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2024
            • 348

            #65
            Out of interest, I assume it means we have an assistant coaching position to fill.

            Happy to be corrected, but I think we now have M McVeigh and Matthews as assistants, J McVeigh as reserves, and I think Buchanan is in a development role.

            So 'if' that's right, either someone gets promoted, or we go seeking fresh talent. (And I'm assuming JMcV isn't going to get promoted back, given part of the logic was giving him the opportunity to run his own program as someone seeking senior coaching opportunities himself.)

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8490

              #66
              Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
              Out of interest, I assume it means we have an assistant coaching position to fill.

              Happy to be corrected, but I think we now have M McVeigh and Matthews as assistants, J McVeigh as reserves, and I think Buchanan is in a development role.

              So 'if' that's right, either someone gets promoted, or we go seeking fresh talent. (And I'm assuming JMcV isn't going to get promoted back, given part of the logic was giving him the opportunity to run his own program as someone seeking senior coaching opportunities himself.)
              Since he was once my favourite player, I wouldn't mind seeing Tadhg back in our system. I think he's still the Giants academy coach, so he could be open to an offer that might have a bit more prestige. Though he'd probably want some sort of guarantee, that he won't be let go if money gets tight?

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1763

                #67
                This came up on my facebook. Horse farewelling each of the players individually.

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  #68
                  Many would think the 4th GF loss played a part in Horse's decision, what state of mind are the players in?

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                  • Sandridge
                    Outer wing, Lake Oval
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2049

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                    Many would think the 4th GF loss played a part in Horse's decision, what state of mind are the players in?
                    Speaking of Grand Final losses, could I go off on bit of tangent here?

                    Which of Horse's Grand Final losses bothered you the most? For me, the thrashings hurt for a short time but I was quickly able to focus instead on the great seasons that led up to them. However, I seethed for ages after the 2016 GF loss to the Poodles and it still annoys the hell out of me. Just seeing Luke Beveridge's face is enough to bring back the anger.

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                    • wolftone57
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5835

                      #70
                      Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
                      All I know is I feel a bit sad.

                      It was obvious he had three choices at the end of the year - retire, see out last year of contract, or seek out an extension. But it was all contingent on whether or not he felt he had more in the tank, or it had ground him down. Looks like the latter.

                      I personally love Horse. He's a great footy person and the fact is he's delivered us great success - including a flag.

                      I get his decision, but I'm still a bit devastated.

                      I think it was way past time. I'm pretty sure he knew he couldn't get any more out of this group. He had done as much as he could & was out of ideas. He said that 18 months ago he had a quiet word with Harley & Pridham that 2025 would be his last. But after last GF I believe it all caught up with him & the stress became too much. This is what happens. It's a hugely stressful job. No coach is ever safe. Take Norm Smith 5 premierships & they sacked him, all because he & the President didn't get on. We would like to think it is far more professional today. But is it? Take Essendon & Melbourne. Good examples of how it can go wrong. Oh & Dees were the ones who sacked Smith. Nothing much has changed there.

                      Swans ARE a professional club. They are inclusive & they are in the NOW. What needs to happen now is the boys get on with it & win the next premiership. The goals should be;

                      1. Fix up the midfield
                      2. Win first quarters, then win the rest. Finish off with a full sail
                      3. Blood the players who need to be blooded
                      4. Get the Forward Set Ups right. The personnel are good but the set ups are all wrong. WE NEED A SPECIALIST FORWARDS COACH. MATTY LLOYD? DERMIE? JOSH KENNEDY?
                      5. Get hard. Destroy teams who are there to be destroyed. Bludgeon teams who are in the fight
                      6. BLOOD THE BACKS
                      7. WIN, WIN, WIN!

                      That's it really. Not much to ask

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                      • wolftone57
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5835

                        #71
                        Originally posted by KSAS

                        Gerard Healy on SEN last night said he'd be staggered if Horse had a serious fall out with Parker, after going through a tough period getting back into the side from injury & suspension whilst the team was flying. He went on to stay that he would still play Parker ahead of Adams at start of next season had he not gone to North, stating Adams needs to work earn his spot back. They were hoping to speak with Tom Morris but he wasn’t available.

                        They also interviewed Andrew Pridham, which was mostly going over what was already covered at yesterday's pressers. However, the question was raised whether Longmire"s new role will be under the soft cap with consideration also given to senior assistant role being filled. Andrew just said he didn't believe it will be an issue without elaborating any further.
                        Horse's new role is not a part of the Footy Department. It is more a Management role

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8543

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Sandridge

                          Speaking of Grand Final losses, could I go off on bit of tangent here?

                          Which of Horse's Grand Final losses bothered you the most? For me, the thrashings hurt for a short time but I was quickly able to focus instead on the great seasons that led up to them. However, I seethed for ages after the 2016 GF loss to the Poodles and it still annoys the hell out of me. Just seeing Luke Beveridge's face is enough to bring back the anger.
                          Same with me....yes it hurts when we don't turn up but the opposition however does and I can then accept that we were beaten by a better team on the day....even if we may have been the better team over the season....but when we are the better team full stop and are then robbed of a deserved flag like in 2016, that hurts more than anything. The 2016 GF will haunt and bother and anger me to my grave.....and because of it, I will hate the Bulldogs until I die too.....and the umpires who stole it from us.

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5835

                            #73
                            Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
                            Out of interest, I assume it means we have an assistant coaching position to fill.

                            Happy to be corrected, but I think we now have M McVeigh and Matthews as assistants, J McVeigh as reserves, and I think Buchanan is in a development role.

                            So 'if' that's right, either someone gets promoted, or we go seeking fresh talent. (And I'm assuming JMcV isn't going to get promoted back, given part of the logic was giving him the opportunity to run his own program as someone seeking senior coaching opportunities himself.)
                            Adam Kennedy is the new Development Coach.

                            We need a Forwards Coach. Our Forward Set ups don't give our tall forwards a hope in hell. They are all flying against each other. We need to spread the options.

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11328

                              #74
                              Originally posted by wolftone57

                              Adam Kennedy is the new Development Coach.

                              We need a Forwards Coach. Our Forward Set ups don't give our tall forwards a hope in hell. They are all flying against each other. We need to spread the options.
                              Who is Adam Kennedy.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                #75
                                I think the Adam Kennedy in question was the former inaugural Giants player. A bit of a hard nut.

                                In hindsight, maybe some of those questioning Horse's ongoing capacity weren't completely off base.

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