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  • lwjoyner
    Senior Player
    • Nov 2004
    • 1127

    #61
    Its H Mc for amartey can provide at least some support for Brody and more reliable kick for goal and maybe a stronger marker although as i have said before not as spectacular. But what do we want a mark or someone trying to tak a specky. Also maybe Corey W for Lloyd who I feel is also off the pace. Harry C also struggled friday night.

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    • KSAS
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2018
      • 2065

      #62
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

      We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

      It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

      We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.
      Good to hear from you Ludwig.

      You've raised some good points which others have followed upon.

      I just want to add with Kardinia Park being a narrow ground, Chris Scott will able to take the advantage of being able to further strangehold our corridor run and even prevent us going wide. I suspect he will employ a stranglehold team tactic on the Lizard to limit his effectivrness, rather than playing a defensive forward on him.

      Cox used the words "adapt" and "mature" when describing on where we need to improve with our game plan in his post match presser.

      Some media pundits are questioning whether our forward handball game will hold up in finals.

      I take the view it's better to be exposed now and learn, rather than in the finals when it's too late, as we did in the 24 GF.

      it will be tough against the Cats this week, but hopefully also pivotal in the long run, even if we don't get the win.

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      • UUaswan
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2024
        • 993

        #63
        Originally posted by KSAS

        Good to hear from you Ludwig.

        You've raised some good points which others have followed upon.

        I just want to add with Kardinia Park being a narrow ground, Chris Scott will able to take the advantage of being able to further strangehold our corridor run and even prevent us going wide. I suspect he will employ a stranglehold team tactic on the Lizard to limit his effectivrness, rather than playing a defensive forward on him.

        Cox used the words "adapt" and "mature" when describing on where we need to improve with our game plan in his post match presser.

        Some media pundits are questioning whether our forward handball game will hold up in finals.

        I take the view it's better to be exposed now and learn, rather than in the finals when it's too late, as we did in the 24 GF.

        it will be tough against the Cats this week, but hopefully also pivotal in the long run, even if we don't get the win.
        Just a thought but if it is a narrow ground, is there any need to go the corridor?

        We normally play well down there.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 9427

          #64
          Coaches votes for the game. It looks like McRae was less impressed with an honourable loss than Clarkson was.

          10 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
          8 Nick Blakey (SYD)
          5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
          4 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
          2 Isaac Quaynor (COLL)
          1 Justin McInerney (SYD)

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 9427

            #65
            Both Grundy and Heeney are on the leader board.

            55 Nick Daicos COLL
            50 Marcus Bontempelli WB
            50 Zak Butters PORT
            45 Luke Jackson FRE
            44 Brodie Grundy SYD
            43 Shai Bolton FRE
            43 Bailey Smith GEEL
            41 Max Holmes GEEL
            39 Max Gawn MELB
            39 Isaac Heeney SYD
            38 Lachie Neale BL
            38 Christian Petracca GCFC

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            • Kafka's Ghost
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2017
              • 950

              #66
              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
              Coaches votes for the game. It looks like McRae was less impressed with an honourable loss than Clarkson was.

              10 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
              8 Nick Blakey (SYD)
              5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
              4 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
              2 Isaac Quaynor (COLL)
              1 Justin McInerney (SYD)
              No way was Nick Daicos the third most influential player on the ground.

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              • BRS328
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2018
                • 474

                #67
                Originally posted by lwjoyner
                Its H Mc for amartey can provide at least some support for Brody and more reliable kick for goal and maybe a stronger marker although as i have said before not as spectacular. But what do we want a mark or someone trying to tak a specky. Also maybe Corey W for Lloyd who I feel is also off the pace. Harry C also struggled friday night.
                You cannot play Curnow and McLean in the same team. The forward line works because it is open. Cox said exactly this as the reason McLean was omitted. I might add his performance in the VFL against a weakened Collingwood team was not great

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                • lwjoyner
                  Senior Player
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 1127

                  #68
                  He does not block the final fwd line like amarty does who is often in the same place as Curno..

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6592

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

                    We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

                    It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

                    We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.
                    We definitely did change between our run and carry, to wide and then long over the back through the game

                    it was pointed out by Cox we left it too late on the field to change it up.

                    so we do have a plan B and C in attack but we may need to agree on the field when to change gears earlier
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • BRS328
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 474

                      #70
                      Originally posted by lwjoyner
                      He does not block the final fwd line like amarty does who is often in the same place as Curno..
                      Perhaps the coaches don’t know what they are doing!!! Armartey is far more mobile than McLean, particularly when the ball hits the ground, and in my opinion reads the play a lot better. Armartey wasn’t great Friday night but conditions played a big part in that for tall forwards in both sides

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