Match thread. Round 12, Swans v Richmond.

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  • Dow
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2022
    • 1042

    #61
    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44

    While I only listened on radio and watched the highlights, it sounds like Kyle had a decent debut. Certainly his run through the middle to hit up Heeney looked like a quality player. It'll be interesting to see how they try to develop him for the rest of the season. My general impression on why the first round bid was matched, was that they knew how athletic he was and that they thought that they might be able to turn him into a big bodied midfielder, with the speed to escape from congestion. Early on in the VFL season, he was playing a bit of midfield, but they may have decided that it was a bit too much to soon and switched him back to running defender. So, will they keep him in defence or have another try at converting him to a mid? Personally, I think there's more upside to the midfield option. Plus there's a couple of current academy prospects, with similar sort of profiles, who could become very good rebounding defenders, if we somehow manage to draft them: Jake Medved and Mason McGroder.

    As far as I know, Medved is a recent convert, who was just running around playing touch footy, until playing for the academy this season. At 193cm, he's probably quicker than Kyle and I'd say that his disposal skills are more damaging to the opposition. I strongly suspect that he's a big fan of Blakey, because he loves to take off out of defence at high pace. Unfortunately, he may have already played himself out of our draft range, because we don't have a first round pick, and even if we traded in a pick or two, it's likely that we'll have to play the competency tax.

    McGroder at 195cm is a little bit taller and a bit more solidly built, which means he has spent a bit of time as a KPD and a bit of time as a relief ruck. He's probably even more athletic, winning the Australian u20 long jump as a 16 year old and also being a quality 400m runner. While he's been in the academy a few seasons, he's possibly still inexperienced, as he regularly misses games to compete in athletics championships. His positioning might need a bit of work and he's yet to have the sort of high possession game, that tends to attract the attention of recruiters. However, when he does get the ball, he reminds me a bit of a 12yo playing in the u10s. If he does decide to pursue an AFL career, rather than athletics, he could also rise up the draft boards.

    And I use the term, rise up the draft boards, quite loosely, because the only Swans player mentioned in the rankings that I've seen, is the injured McCartney. So perhaps the experts will continue to ignore our academy prospects? Which is possibly a bit too much to ask for. Perhaps a more likely scenario, is the hype coming for one of them and the other being a bit underrated. Like how the hype came for Campbell, while Gulden slipped through to pick 32.

    Anyway, Kyle to midfield, and hopefully we pick up at least one of Medved or McGroder, as the perfect rebounding partner to Blakey.
    Think long term the club would love him to move into the midfield

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8676

      #62
      Originally posted by longmile

      Hope we can somehow make Ladhams and Grundy fit in the same team. I think Ladhams has some X factor and would allow Grundy to rest. But it’d mean we’d probably have to drop one of our key forwards
      Next week we play the Saints who have two good rucks. I think Ladhams and McLean should stay and Amartey should be 'managed'. Perfect time to see how the two ruckman approach works.....but I suppose that still means another player has to go with Grundy returning.
      I wouldn't be dropping McDonald, he's hitting his straps now and McLean deserves to stay after he delivered yet again. Selection will indeed be interesting this week.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8676

        #63
        Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
        ition.

        As for Kyle, can’t believe some of the early crap on here. He was playing as a defender and didn’t get beaten once, then as his confidence lifted, got some ball. And that one two off half back when he then took off through the middle and delivered to Heeney was footy porn. If that’s what he’s doing when he’s raw as it comes, look out.
        I agree....he looks a real prospect.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8676

          #64
          Originally posted by 111431
          Whilst yesterday was a good win, it was case of men playing boys. My concern is, early in the game they went goal for goal with us. I think we’re not defensively strong and will be found out in finals, or against good teams, yet again. How do we strengthen our defensive game so we can compete strongly when it matters?
          By having a full strength team.....so hopefully that happens. Among our current 'best 23' outs are Rampe, Mills and Roberts.
          Last edited by stevoswan; Yesterday, 05:56 PM.

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          • rb4x
            Regular in the Side
            • Dec 2007
            • 990

            #65
            Commentators on Fox said that Hanily and Cleary both had PB's for possessions

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            • Velour&Ruffles
              Regular in the Side
              • Jun 2006
              • 944

              #66
              This was the first time that Hanily looked like a player to me. I thought he was really good and showed he has a good footy brain. Ladhams was also very good, despite the deficiencies some have attributed to his brain. He is extremely athletic for a guy his size and has some shimmy. We definitely need to keep him.
              I see no problem with bringing back Grundy and exiting either Hanily (despite his good game) or Cleary (who was OK too) this week. We have plenty of running power anyway. And both Ladhams and Grundy are very mobile as opposed to the dinosaurs of decades past.
              My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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              • imuninformedtwo
                Regular in the Side
                • Aug 2024
                • 866

                #67
                Originally posted by Dow

                Think long term the club would love him to move into the midfield
                Isaac joked in his post game interview he’ll he pushed out of the midfield for Kyle next year.

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