Drop Benny??

[Sanecow]

Do you honestly think Mathews set out to be a passenger?

[swansrock4eva]

You'd hope not but he should be the best judge of his ability to perform and as a professional he should be in tune with himself enough to know if he can perform on the day or not. If he can't by this stage in his career, he never will and that in itself is a big problem.

[Sanecow]

It's always a bit of a guess to say whether you can play with an injury and it's quite a long-standing tradition in professional sport (especially footy) to lie to whoever is testing you about how you feel and whether you can play.

[liz]

Originally posted by Sanecow
OR it's a prime example of the "Bloods" spirit of sacrificing yourself for the team - so you're not 100%, who cares, you put yourself on the line anyway. It's the attitude that saw many play the Grand Final injured. Should Leo Barry have opted out of the Grand Final?

Originally posted by swansrock4eva
If he was going to be a passenger, yes.

Leo was a passenger in the GF...

he took a ride on the shoulders of LRT, Kennelly and co...

and aren't we glad he did!

[swansrock4eva]

Originally posted by Sanecow
It's always a bit of a guess to say whether you can play with an injury and it's quite a long-standing tradition in professional sport (especially footy) to lie to whoever is testing you about how you feel and whether you can play.

Believe me don't I know it. But if those testing can't pick it up and the player claims they are fine to play knowing they aren't anywhere near up to it, they deserve a butt-kicking for it.

On another thought though, Benny seemed relatively "his usual self" on saturday, so if he was out of form and fitness, does that means he's ALWAYS out of form and fitness?

[Go Swannies]

So every Swans player with an injury should ask not to play? Barry Hall certainly shouldn't have played the past two games with his hamstring problems.

And I hear Jolly has a long term niggle so should he rest and let Chambers be our No 1 ruckman?

From last week's press report, if the self righteous of RWO did team selection, we would have played without 11 of our seniors. That would have given a lot of our 2s a good chance to play seniors.

When Crouch was finally limiting Judd in the GF were you all thinking "He's got broken bones and he's not 100% fit - how selfish to take the field"?

The direction of this thread has surpassed itself for armchair critic illogical finger pointing.

[dendol]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
So every Swans player with an injury should ask not to play? Barry Hall certainly shouldn't have played the past two games with his hamstring problems.

And I hear Jolly has a long term niggle so should he rest and let Chambers be our No 1 ruckman?

From last week's press report, if the self righteous of RWO did team selection, we would have played without 11 of our seniors. That would have given a lot of our 2s a good chance to play seniors.

When Crouch was finally limiting Judd in the GF were you all thinking "He's got broken bones and he's not 100% fit - how selfish to take the field"?

The direction of this thread has surpassed itself for armchair critic illogical finger pointing.

Im not asking for Benny to be dropped because hes injured. Im asking him to be dropped cos hes shiiit even when at 100%.

[gossipcom]

They said on Channel Ten that it was Ben M and Teddy R who were dropped with Vogels, Bevan and Dempster promoted.

[liz]

Originally posted by gossipcom
They said on Channel Ten that it was Ben M and Teddy R who were dropped with Vogels, Bevan and Dempster promoted.

That's three in and only two out.

Assuming there have been three changes, I'm a tad disappointed that one of the 'ins' isn't either Moore or Schmidt. Others will decry the inclusion of Bevan. I'm not one of them. His reserves form warrants his inclusion.

The one I'd not have brought back in at this stage is Dempster. I certainly think he has a future but on recent reserves (and senior) form, I don't think his cries for selection are as loud and clear as Moore's and Schmidt's. There may be match-up considerations, of course, with Dempster able to take a taller player while Moore and Schmidt can't. But if the plan is to play Dempster more in a midfield role, I'm a little disappointed.

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
So every Swans player with an injury should ask not to play? Barry Hall certainly shouldn't have played the past two games with his hamstring problems.

And I hear Jolly has a long term niggle so should he rest and let Chambers be our No 1 ruckman?

No, not every player should, but players playing very poor football in positions where we have depth and the player has injuries shouldn't be putting themselves ahead of the team.

[big bear]

Drop Benny.
Preferably from the Harbour Bridge.

[dendol]

Originally posted by big bear
Drop Benny.
Preferably from the Harbour Bridge.

that is, perhaps, taking it a bit too far.

[katie-scarlett]

Originally posted by big bear
Drop Benny.
Preferably from the Harbour Bridge.

Bungee?