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Yes hes been good, but I don't class him as irreplaceble as Jolly, Hall and a few others here have been argued for.
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Okay MMG, you got me.
Where are you getting these nicknames from?"It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.
YOU BETCHA!!!!!!Comment
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see the sandpit...Originally posted by BeeEmmAre
Okay MMG, you got me.
Where are you getting these nicknames from?He ate more cheese, than time allowedComment
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Hall is the obvious one.
The other is LRT. He is our key big defender and is essential to restricting the oppositions key forward. He is also one of the very few players that we don't have a replacement for.Comment
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when we had a similar discussion last year, the considered opinion was BBBH and Leo! How times have changed perhaps?
If Freo and WCE are our real threats for the flag, then Leo's role might be diminished (given the nature of their respective forward structures) but if the Pies and the Saints are our threat, Leo surely still has a role to play.
If we go with the "western" favourites scenario, then our midfield is likely to be the key - Kirk, Bolton & Goodes in particular. Needless to say, if it's Torture vs Cox or Sandilands then the midfield won't make much difference at all, so certainly Jolly is also critical to our chances.Comment
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I would suggest that leo is more useful against the smaller forward lines, or teams without a dominant forward...Originally posted by giant
when we had a similar discussion last year, the considered opinion was BBBH and Leo! How times have changed perhaps?
If Freo and WCE are our real threats for the flag, then Leo's role might be diminished (given the nature of their respective forward structures) but if the Pies and the Saints are our threat, Leo surely still has a role to play.
If we go with the "western" favourites scenario, then our midfield is likely to be the key - Kirk, Bolton & Goodes in particular. Needless to say, if it's Torture vs Cox or Sandilands then the midfield won't make much difference at all, so certainly Jolly is also critical to our chances.
He seems to get smashed whenever he plays on a big name.He ate more cheese, than time allowedComment
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So far this thread provides some justification for my attitude towards Kirk as a player.Comment
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Goodes. I know Hall and Jolly are important but I'd nominate Kennelly as the most important after Goodes. Kennelly's value in running lines/motivation/inspiration etc. was missing in those early games he was out. His value goes well beyond his stats.Originally posted by Marry me Goodes
I would suggest that leo is more useful against the smaller forward lines, or teams without a dominant forward...
He seems to get smashed whenever he plays on a big name.
Goodes though is on another plane. Irreplaceable.Comment
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If he takes the pressure of those guys and takes 2/3 players.That should leave Micky,Davo,Rok ..etc etc,to take the easy mark into the F50,but the other players keep on kicking it to Hally when he's under way to much pressure.Kick it to a easy option.Originally posted by Plugger46
Hall.
He's the focal point - sides do not win flags very often without one.
He takes the pressure off Micky, Davis, O'Keefe etc.
IMHO the most important players are in no order.......
Rok,LRT,B1,B2,Goodes,Bucky,Jolly, Fosdike and NoggyLast edited by swantastic; 30 August 2006, 07:44 PM.Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...
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Yeah you're right. I have never rated him but it seemed like we really missed him on the weekend with so many stopages. Somene just to slap it clear of the back of 30 every now and then. We can do without him, though.Originally posted by dendol
Ablett? Seriously?? He's a mould of Bolton, Kirk and Buchanan, and the only thing setting him apart from them is an extra 15m on his thumping left foot.Comment
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WTF??!?Originally posted by swantastic
IMHO the most important players are in no order.......
Rok,LRT,B1,Noggy,Goodes,Bucky,Jolly and Fosdike ATM.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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FFS,NMW its IMO.Originally posted by NMWBloods
WTF??!?
Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...
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Problem there is that the right foot is Ablett's preferred kicking foot. Kirk and Buchanan are both left footers (could be Catholics too) so I will watch Ablett next time on his left to see if he kicks 15m longer.Originally posted by dendol
Ablett? Seriously?? He's a mould of Bolton, Kirk and Buchanan, and the only thing setting him apart from them is an extra 15m on his thumping left foot.
On who we would miss the most I will go with Kirk. He is the quiet leader out there who beholds the bloods spirit and uncannily rises to the occasion when the chips are down. Finds the hard ball and space more often than people give him credit for.Comment
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Of course it is. I just can't fathom it.Originally posted by swantastic
FFS,NMW its IMO.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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I would have agreed last year, but not really this year.Originally posted by Nico
On who we would miss the most I will go with Kirk. He is the quiet leader out there who beholds the bloods spirit and uncannily rises to the occasion when the chips are down. Finds the hard ball and space more often than people give him credit for.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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