Why Spida?

[hammo]

I have always been 50/50 on Spida and was cooling over time however I am now convinced we need an AFL-ready ruckman to assist Jolly and Doyle next year.

I think Spida is the best available. He is a superior player to Gardiner, while not perfect has been less trouble with the law than Gardiner, and while getting on is still young in terms of a ruckman who may only be expected to play 10-15 minutes a quarter. The fact we play 8 games a year at the small SCG is also an advantage.

Paul Salmon played until he was 36 (please correct me if I am wrong) and was quite a handy player right up until he retired.

Spida is mature, a polished media performer, and no doubt determined to win a flag before he retires. Hopefully he can achieve that at Sydney while also leaving a lasting legacy at the club by mentoring youngsters like Shaw.

My only concern is what Sydney will need to give up to get him.

[Zlatorog]

After poor Jolly's display during GF, I'm afraid we'll trade anybody just to get Spida. Jolly is not mature enough to carry on ruck alone (with or without Donk). I'm afraid we might be for some nasty surprise later this week.

[Guzzitza]

Roos seems to be standing firm with the Hawks, he has stated he will risk the draft to get Spida if the Hawks refuse to come to agreeable terms.

Article..

Sydney coach Paul Roos said his club was keen to quickly come to an agreement with Hawthorn over a trade for Hawks ruckman Peter Everitt, who wants to go to the Swans.

Roos said if an agreement could not be reached and Everitt fell through to the pre-season draft, he believed the Swans would be able to pick him up that way.

But he said the club would prefer to trade with the Hawks.

"We want to maintain a good relationship with the Hawthorn footy club, we're not going to threaten that sort of stuff even though we've got room in the salary cap and all those sorts of things," Roos said.

"But I'd prefer to get (a trade) done, it's better for us, it's better for Hawthorn."

However, Hawthorn's recruiting manager Chris Pelchen said Everitt would be going to the draft if the Swans did not meet their trade demands.

The Hawks have so far put three exchange options to the Swans, one of them involving Sydney youngster Nick Malceski heading to Hawthorn, but all have been knocked back by the Swans.

"We accept their reluctance (to let Everitt go to the draft), we don't have that same reluctance, let's put it that way," Pelchen said.

[Lucky Knickers]

Spida is a mature smart player - reads the play well, works hard around the ground - rucks then pushes forward, quite a handy kick for goal, as well as get back to shore up the defence. He's also a confident marker of the ball which Jolly and Doyle aren't.

IMO he is a superior ruckman to Ball and look what he achieved?

[Guzzitza]

Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
Spida is a mature smart player - reads the play well, works hard around the ground - rucks then pushes forward, quite a handy kick for goal, as well as get back to shore up the defence. He's also a confident marker of the ball which Jolly and Doyle aren't.

IMO he is a superior ruckman to Ball and look what he achieved?

Agree with all of the above. He was all australian 2 seasons ago. Then wantd a change of scenery, they didnt give it to him, so his heart wasnt in it and he had a bad season. I think he will thrive in the red and white, him and barry compare tats and drink beers without being noticed in the street by the average sydney sider.

Bring on the spida!

[dazza]

But what are the Swans going to give up to get the Spida

I have a bad feeling that the Hawks will not give him up easily without being compensated one way or the other

It will be an interesting trade week

[hammo]

Originally posted by dazza
But what are the Swans going to give up to get the Spida

I have a bad feeling that the Hawks will not give him up easily without being compensated one way or the other

It will be an interesting trade week

It depends how interested other clubs like the Saints and Crows are.

We are in the box position to all clubs except the Saints because we can meet his wage demands.

I am also puzzled as to how the Saints are able to do any major trading without a coach.

[dazza]

That still does not answer my question as to who the Swans are prepared to lose to get Spida ?

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by dazza
That still does not answer my question as to who the Swans are prepared to lose to get Spida ?

Davis.
Ablett.
Jolly.

[Ajn]

400k a year deal for 2 years in pre season draft will mean there won't be any other clubs willing to poach hm for the price

Cast your minds back to one C.Bolton, it's not that other clubs weren't interested in getting him....

I think Hawthorn will have to give in or get nothing (3rd round pick for mind)

[hammo]

Originally posted by dazza
That still does not answer my question as to who the Swans are prepared to lose to get Spida ?

It does. If no other club is interested then it is pointless Hawthorn making excessive demands because Sydney will just elect to wait until the pre season draft.

If Sydney is having to bid against other clubs then Hawthorn are in a stronger position.

[Lucky Knickers]

Originally posted by dazza
That still does not answer my question as to who the Swans are prepared to lose to get Spida ?

Do we have to give up anything? Isn't Spida a free agent? Couldn't he just go through the PSD rather than trade week and price himself out? If he's not prepared to go anywhere else I can the Hawks force his hand? I didn't think that was possible.

[hammo]

Originally posted by Annie Haddad
Davis.
Ablett.
Jolly.

With all respect that is quite ridiculous.

For all the trouble this season, Davo proved in the GF what a valuable player he is. Untradeable.

Ablett is on the rise. The club has invested in his development and with 70+ games experience he's about to pay it back. Untradeable.

We are looking to strengthen our ruck division, not weaken it. Jolly played one bad game in 2 months so now you want to trade him? The idea is to have 3 top ruckmen so if 1 goes down injured we are not left short.

The bottom line is we won't have to give up anything to get Spida if we wait until the PSD. Roos doesn't want to screw over Hawthorn but I reckon we should do it anyway. They forfeited their right to a fair trade by wanted a swap with Malceski.

[dazza]

The problem the Swans have got is that they have no decent players they can trade for Spida and also as I said before if they wait until the PSD then St Kilda will pounce and take him

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Originally posted by dazza
The problem the Swans have got is that they have no decent players they can trade for Spida and also as I said before if they wait until the PSD then St Kilda will pounce and take him

We have plenty of decent players we could trade for him, the problem is he's 32 and not getting any younger.