Number 2 ruckman

[ROK Lobster]

Spider is number 1. Jolly or Doyle? If the donk gets himself fit I'll enjoy watching Jolly call home from Manuka between qtrs.

[ScottH]

How sure are you that he will be #1 Ruckman?

I would've thought that Jolly and Spida would share the duties fairly equally, depending on opponents, while Doyle would be the back up ruckman/forward.

I guess it all depends on how fit Doyle is, and how fit he stays.
Ditto for the other 2.

[Frog]

Spida in 1st ruck will depend a lot on how the midfield is coping with one of the best tap ruckmen in the game. It will probably require a different setup. If the midfield don't grasp it, Jolly will stay first until they do (was Ball a tap ruckman, is Jolly?).
IMO Spida around the ground, whether back or forward, is a much more exciting prospect. All three of them are quite capable in most areas of the ground - I can hardly wait to see all three in the team - Height and ability where we need it - and Roos will rotate them according to the needs at the time.

[stellation]

Originally posted by Frog
Spida in 1st ruck will depend a lot on how the midfield is coping with one of the best tap ruckmen in the game. It will probably require a different setup. If the midfield don't grasp it, Jolly will stay first until they do (was Ball a tap ruckman, is Jolly?).

An interesting point, our midfielders will have to actually look for the ball to come to them instead of look to lock down their opposite number. I hope Roos is smart and uses Davis' midfield cycles (assuming he is still going to spend time in the midfield) when Spida is rucking.

[goswannie14]

I would like to see Jolly and Doyle sharing the bulk of the centre ruck work, with Spida on the ground in the in the forward 50 for most of the time. This would free up Baz as both a forward ruckman and as a target up forward. You won't see 3 opponents on baz in a marking contest if there is another tall marking forward option up front.

However, in some games eg the Illegals, it would be wise to have Spida in the centre to cut big Cox down to size.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by goswannie14
I would like to see Jolly and Doyle sharing the bulk of the centre ruck work, with Spida on the ground in the in the forward 50 for most of the time. This would free up Baz as both a forward ruckman and as a target up forward. You won't see 3 opponents on baz in a marking contest if there is another tall marking forward option up front.

However, in some games eg the Illegals, it would be wise to have Spida in the centre to cut big Cox down to size.

Yeah.

[stellation]

Originally posted by goswannie14
I would like to see Jolly and Doyle sharing the bulk of the centre ruck work, with Spida on the ground in the in the forward 50 for most of the time. This would free up Baz as both a forward ruckman and as a target up forward. You won't see 3 opponents on baz in a marking contest if there is another tall marking forward option up front.

However, in some games eg the Illegals, it would be wise to have Spida in the centre to cut big Cox down to size.

So we put Spida in the F50 so that Baz can be a forward ruckman? I'd probably rather Doyle sitting in the F50 and Jolly/Spida around the ground if we do play all 3.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by stellation
So we put Spida in the F50 so that Baz can be a forward ruckman? I'd probably rather Doyle sitting in the F50 and Jolly/Spida around the ground if we do play all 3.

Sorry I meant free up Baz from doing the forward ruck work and provide another target up forward that would draw defenders away from Baz.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by goswannie14
Sorry I meant free up Baz from doing the forward ruck work and provide another target up forward that would draw defenders away from Baz.

That's what you originally said, which is what I agreed with.

Originally posted by goswannie14
This would free up Baz as both a forward ruckman and as a target up forward. You won't see 3 opponents on baz in a marking contest if there is another tall marking forward option up front.

[SimonH]

Re: Number 2 ruckman

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Spider is number 1. Jolly or Doyle? If the donk gets himself fit I'll enjoy watching Jolly call home from Manuka between qtrs.

Jolly will play for the 1sts, every week that he's fit. He'll take the first bouncedown of the 1st quarter more often than not. Even if he gets injured, he's unlikely to be asked to come back through Canberra.

Sydney are (realistically) only expecting one of those 3 to be around and still doin' the do in 2010: and it's Jolly. (I hope I'm wrong, but it would be a bloody brave person who would bet on the Donk's body lasting that long.) They're not about to start demoting him now.

[Sanecow]

Number 2 ruckman

Another stupid Chambers bashing thread.

[Layby]

I think it amusing how little respect Spider has !

IMHO he will play pretty much 4/5 game either in F50 or ruck, jolly will do grunt centre work, doyle will share this and go forward. Neither Doyle nor jolly have half the motor Spider has, even at his age.

The guy is class, always has been, give him some credit.

His outside footy life is not relevant.

[dimelb]

Originally posted by goswannie14
[BHowever, in some games eg the Illegals, it would be wise to have Spida in the centre to cut big Cox down to size. [/B]

If he wasn't already called Spida we could have called him 'Mohel'.

[HAWKS HEROES]

remember spida can play forwards sideways and i have seen him go down back when they could not get the ball out and get it himself

[reigning premier]

Unless he's getting absolutely smashed by an opposing ruck man, Jolly will remain the #1 Ruck man....

Spida and Doyle will be used up forward and to relieve Jolly as required.

At any one time, and if they're all playing, I suspect that Doyle will start from bench and Jolly and Spida on the ground. Spida fwd and them rotating.

The bonus of having another tall marking fwd in either Spida or Doyle will be far to big a temptation for us not to use them in this way. As has been stated before, if we get a tall marking option fwd, BBBH will be down to single opponent... Here comes the Coleman!