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  • Sanecow
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Mar 2003
    • 6917

    #46
    Originally posted by BAM_BAM
    and Leo running at the opposition and drawing them in to open up space and create run is different how?
    Perhaps it isn't. No need to get aggressive.

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    • originalswan
      On the Rookie List
      • Aug 2004
      • 550

      #47
      Did I do that?

      Arguments seem to have gone a little askew - I was also at the game and thought that Leo put in a good performance.

      For that matter thought that our all time favourite Mathews also performed quite admirably.

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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        #48
        Originally posted by BAM_BAM
        and Leo running at the opposition and drawing them in to open up space and create run is different how?
        If Leo stuffs up in the backline then the opposisito have a set shot from close to goal, if Baz gives away a free this usually won't happen as I don't think I have seen Baz try it from full back.
        Does God believe in Atheists?

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        • Alison
          On the Rookie List
          • Feb 2003
          • 155

          #49
          Either or - still maybe costing us a chance at lining up for goal. Look that is the way Hally and Leo play and I believe (at times) it is to set play up - hold it as long as you can, draw the player and create a loose man.

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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #50
            Originally posted by Alison
            Either or - still maybe costing us a chance at lining up for goal. Look that is the way Hally and Leo play and I believe (at times) it is to set play up - hold it as long as you can, draw the player and create a loose man.
            I'm not doubting Leo's contributuion to the team when he is on song, but don't you still always have your heart in your mouth (ala LRT) when he goes for one of those baulking side to side runs? All four of us there on Saturday do (Dad, Mrs gs14, Lily and I), as did the guy in front of us.
            Does God believe in Atheists?

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            • BAM_BAM
              Support Staff
              • Jun 2003
              • 1820

              #51
              Originally posted by Sanecow
              Perhaps it isn't. No need to get aggressive.
              wasn't meant to be aggressive just asking the question

              Originally posted by goswannie14
              If Leo stuffs up in the backline then the opposisito have a set shot from close to goal, if Baz gives away a free this usually won't happen as I don't think I have seen Baz try it from full back.
              I agree it is a little more dangerous at one end compared to the other. Baz stuffing up ,may not always result in a goal for the opposition, but isn't this also the same with Leo?
              Here's my heart and you can break it
              I need some release, release, release
              We need
              Love and peace

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #52
                But it is more likely a LB stuff up will result in an opposition goal than a BH stuff up.

                I think possessions for backline players can be quite misleading these days too.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Chow-Chicker
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1602

                  #53
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  But it is more likely a LB stuff up will result in an opposition goal than a BH stuff up.

                  I think possessions for backline players can be quite misleading these days too.
                  A BH stuff up could lead to a result like last year's GF as opposed to a saving LB mark that won us the 2005 GF.

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                    A BH stuff up could lead to a result like last year's GF as opposed to a saving LB mark that won us the 2005 GF.
                    So BH's goal from 50 in the last qrtr in 05 had nothing to do with it?
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                      A BH stuff up could lead to a result like last year's GF as opposed to a saving LB mark that won us the 2005 GF.
                      What is the point of comparing a stuff up (or a series of them) with a good bit of play?
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • Chow-Chicker
                        Senior Player
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1602

                        #56
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        What is the point of comparing a stuff up (or a series of them) with a good bit of play?
                        The point is, not only Leo Barry stuffs up. It can happen at the other end, like we saw with Hall in last years GF. Had Hall kicked what he normally eats for breakfast, we would have won. Barry could have stuffed up his mark in the 2005 GF, but didn't. My point is no less pointless than most of the posts in here....

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #57
                          The point of the discussion was that a single error in the backline is normally more costly than a single error in the forward line.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • graystar
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 543

                            #58
                            The reality is with teams transitioning into defence, any stuffing around with the ball in the back line means our forwards are going to deal with greater numbers.

                            Where do Halls triple teams come from?
                            I will be a member again when I return.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16773

                              #59
                              Originally posted by NMWBloods
                              The point of the discussion was that a single error in the backline is normally more costly than a single error in the forward line.
                              How so?

                              A single error in the backline may cost 1 or 6 points. A single error in the forward line may cost 5 or 6 points.

                              Either way, the impact on the margin is pretty much the same. And that is all that counts.

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                              • Chow-Chicker
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 1602

                                #60
                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                The point of the discussion was that a single error in the backline is normally more costly than a single error in the forward line.
                                True in most cases. But a missed simple shot at goal is just as costly as an error that costs a goal at the other end.

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