The Des Headland Outburst!

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  • swansrock4eva
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1352

    Originally posted by NMWBloods

    When he realised his mistake (assuming what Headland said registered) I think it highly unlikely he would have said "sorry mate" in the middle of the football match.
    Why the heck wouldn't a decent person apologise after having just basically told a father they "******" his daughter, not realising the picture they referred to was a 6y.o? Players often apologise after bumps etc, even just if it's in passing, and if it was in fact a misinterpretation of the tatoo on Selwood's part, why continue with it, why not back off, say sorry at the appropriate moment (ok maybe not immediately after, but certainly at the next break or the end of the match) and do the decent thing considering he'd just said what he did? Instead he carried on with it, made it worse and now look where it's all at. I know you're trying to understand it NMW but, for mine, I just can't. There's being a sportsman and then there's being a gentleman, and the two should never be mutually exclusive. If you stuff up you should be man enough to apologise and try to smooth it over, not grab the shovel and dig your hole deeper as Selwood appears to have done.

    Yes sledging is a part of the game, but this, and the cricket example provided by CC are both very good examples of where players take it too far. If they have to resort to that to get the advantage then it says more about their skills as a player and their intellect than it does about the person who responds imo.

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
      Just have a look at when the South African cricket team was out here last time. They complained about racial taunts from sections of the crowd and Cricket Australia responded with the threat to throw any spectator out of the stadium if they were caught doing it. Times are a changing.

      To me, the sort of taunts like Selwood's are no better than someone king hitting a palyer from behind. It is a dead set low act that the emoitional harm caused is equal to the physical harm caused by the cowardly act of a king hit IMO.
      Wasn't the racial abuse claim made in Perth?
      Does God believe in Atheists?

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      • Chow-Chicker
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2006
        • 1602

        Originally posted by goswannie14
        Wasn't the racial abuse claim made in Perth?
        Haha, good pick up!

        Not suggesting Selwood was in the crowd now are you?

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        • swantastic
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2006
          • 7275

          Apparently Headland said to Drew Bamfield when he was leaving the field that if Selwood says it again ..
          I'm going to kill him
          WT are also alleging that the Freo players were not so flattering towards poor little Benny and the drugs issue,surprise surprise.So it seems like a bit of tit-4-tat ATM,it couldn't happen to a nicer mob.Selwood is strenuously deigning the allegations and that's all they are ATM.
          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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          • Ruda Wakening
            Survived The Meltdown
            • Aug 2003
            • 1519

            Originally posted by cookie2
            Worsfold is as big a disgrace as Selwood, he chuckled and smirked his way through an interview with Channel 7 last night - more of my thoughts here:

            http://theperthfiles.blogspot.com/
            I've often read the Perth Files.
            Are you John Cooke?
            Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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            • hammo
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2003
              • 5554

              Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
              Haha, good pick up!

              Not suggesting Selwood was in the crowd now are you?
              Does he speak Afrikaans?
              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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              • cookie2
                On the Rookie List
                • Sep 2006
                • 36

                If you like The Perth Files, then yes I am... if you're a crazy stalker, then my name's Bill Smith
                - Purple, Proud and Passionate -

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                • Balrog
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5

                  Pedophelia Question Not Raised

                  Selwood claimed to have had sex with a six year old!!!!!!

                  Whether the six year old is related to Des just makes it worse.

                  If Racism is out, should Pedophelia be out??????

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                    I understand that, that's why I never used names. But one has to ask....how does such a story ever eventuate? Not saying that they are lying about it or protecting one another, but if someone "made up" that story, then they are sicker than the alleged exchange.
                    Because people like urban myths and lots of people believe them.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • dimelb
                      pr. dim-melb; m not f
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 6889

                      I suspect there's a larger society-wide issue here. So-called 'black humour' or 'sick humour' often goes beyond a joke into puerile obscenity or childish attempts to shock, stuff that might be met with a 'Grow up' or a 'Not funny' and a walk away.
                      I'm not surprised to see and hear this crap on the sports field; as someone said earlier, some sledging is funny and some is beyond the pale. But we've started to change the rules: racism is not OK now, thanks to Michael Long, Nicky Winmar and others. When are we going to start thinking similarly about sexist crap?
                      I'm disappointed big time in John Worsfold. What do you think Roos would have done? Things wouldn't have been allowed to get to that stage, and if one of our blokes behaved like that I suspect he'd find himself in the twos for a while to remind him about the meaning of discipline.
                      And yes, Headland is a bit of a dill ('Madisan' - I ask you) and a hothead, but if anyone had said that to me on the football field the game would have been forgotten for a minute while it got sorted.
                      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        Originally posted by Balrog
                        Selwood claimed to have had sex with a six year old!!!!!!

                        Whether the six year old is related to Des just makes it worse.

                        If Racism is out, should Pedophelia be out??????
                        Players today are a bunch of soft c@#$@,what happens on the field should stay on the field. IMO.I copped plenty of racial abuse when i played soccer,it happens when you are one of the few Aussies playing an ethnic game but hey i just got them back on the field.
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          Originally posted by swansrock4eva
                          Why the heck wouldn't a decent person apologise after having just basically told a father they "******" his daughter, not realising the picture they referred to was a 6y.o? Players often apologise after bumps etc, even just if it's in passing, and if it was in fact a misinterpretation of the tatoo on Selwood's part, why continue with it, why not back off, say sorry at the appropriate moment (ok maybe not immediately after, but certainly at the next break or the end of the match) and do the decent thing considering he'd just said what he did?
                          A footballer will never say sorry in the middle of a match. It would be a major psychological edge.

                          Instead he carried on with it, made it worse and now look where it's all at. I know you're trying to understand it NMW but, for mine, I just can't.
                          I don't understand sledging at all - I think it's weak and pathetic. But I can understand how people can come out with things, especially in the heat of a game, which they would not normally say.

                          There's being a sportsman and then there's being a gentleman, and the two should never be mutually exclusive.
                          The days of equating gentleman and sportsman are well gone, and rarely had an appearance in football.

                          If you stuff up you should be man enough to apologise and try to smooth it over, not grab the shovel and dig your hole deeper as Selwood appears to have done.
                          Yes, but people do dig themselves deeper in lots of circumstances, particularly if they don't quickly see a way out.

                          Yes sledging is a part of the game, but this, and the cricket example provided by CC are both very good examples of where players take it too far. If they have to resort to that to get the advantage then it says more about their skills as a player and their intellect than it does about the person who responds imo.
                          Plenty of sportsmen aren't that far and don't have boundaries on how far to take it. Still, a lot of things do get send on the ground that wouldn't be said off the ground.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Balrog
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5

                            Swantastic You WIN (but what)

                            On the basis that Racial sledging is GREAT and GOOD then who am I to complain about Pedophelia, you win (but what?)

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                            • Ruda Wakening
                              Survived The Meltdown
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1519

                              Eh?
                              Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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                              • Balrog
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5

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                                Originally posted by swantastic
                                Players today are a bunch of soft c@#$@,what happens on the field should stay on the field. IMO.I copped plenty of racial abuse when i played soccer,it happens when you are one of the few Aussies playing an ethnic game but hey i just got them back on the field.
                                Racial is Good ergo Pedaphelia is fine according to Swan

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