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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11343

    #16
    Isn't it funny. When we lose Bazza gets a bagging. Almost every time we lose you can point the finger at the poor disposal into the forward line. There is not a top forward ever to exist in the game that hasn't had at least a few off game in a season. Better to point the finger at the disposal skills of our midfield.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #17
      Originally posted by Nico
      Isn't it funny. When we lose Bazza gets a bagging. Almost every time we lose you can point the finger at the poor disposal into the forward line. There is not a top forward ever to exist in the game that hasn't had at least a few off game in a season. Better to point the finger at the disposal skills of our midfield.
      Also shows, for all the crap about the best forward line in the league, that we are pretty light on for scoring options. Pinga O'Keefe has to go up to the defensive 50 to get it, MOL will give you one or two but never a bag,. and we do not have a goal kicking midfielder or small forward to speak of. At the moment it is no Hall, no Swans. As you have said Nico, without Davis we are swinging in the breeze.

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11343

        #18
        Get Davis back in pronto.

        What gets me is we dont have a strategy of these poor converters handballing off from a set position to someone like Ablett and Davis who at least have a chance of getting the distance.
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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          #19
          Originally posted by ugg
          Sorry he got absolutely crap ball from the midfield tonight against 2 or 3 opponents at most contests.
          Agree.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #20
            Originally posted by ugg
            Sorry he got absolutely crap ball from the midfield tonight against 2 or 3 opponents at most contests.
            Jonas anyone.

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            • BAM_BAM
              Support Staff
              • Jun 2003
              • 1820

              #21
              Originally posted by ScottH
              Jonas anyone.

              IMO that's the reason for Hall's seemingly poor game. Roos was out smarted by his understudy, that and the fact that we don't have a plan B it seem.
              Here's my heart and you can break it
              I need some release, release, release
              We need
              Love and peace

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #22
                We've never had a plan B.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • melbloods78
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 83

                  #23
                  hard when your taking on 6 blokes at a time. where were the two or threee players that should have been loose everytime we went forward. too much barry watching from the free guys i think
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                  • Zlatorog
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1748

                    #24
                    Goodes is also one of those players missing in big games. A big primadona.

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                    • Lucky Knickers
                      Fandom of Fabulousness
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4220

                      #25
                      Plan B was for Buchanan, McVeigh, Spida, ROK, MOL to mark in the F50 and kick the goals - shame they couldn't execute!

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                      • JF_Bay22_SCG
                        expat Sydneysider
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3978

                        #26
                        Originally posted by desredandwhite
                        I think masey may be right. Hall has trouble taking contested overhead marks, however his best work comes from strong hard leads. He was clearly unable to do that tonight, giving Rutten plenty of time to catch up and spoil. Still, that doesn't explain why they keep kicking it to him. If the crows are double and triple teaming him, that means WE have free men elsewhere!!!
                        As I said in the other threat, I still worry about his eyesite. He really struggles at night a lot of the time to take overhead mark. It is as if he cannot see the ball clearly into his hands.

                        Furthermore he only makes the situation worse by starting to get angry, with not only has opposition players needle him more but leads to further brain explosions & possible 50 metre penalties (or maybe even more).

                        I think Roos badly badly erred in not playing him on the ball during the 2nd half tonight. He was pathetic as a forward & badly needed a feel for the footy. As a forward with just a contagious case of the fumbles he only helped have the game play into the Crows' hands.

                        JF
                        "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                        (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16787

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
                          I think Roos badly badly erred in not playing him on the ball during the 2nd half tonight.

                          JF
                          I reckon the fact that he barely strayed from the 50m arc is a sign that his knee is far from 100%. Normally when he's struggling to get into things he leads up the ground hard and provides a linking option moving the ball forward. He did none of that yesterday.

                          So I very much doubt he was capable of playing on the ball.

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                          • DST
                            The voice of reason!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2705

                            #28
                            Originally posted by liz
                            I reckon the fact that he barely strayed from the 50m arc is a sign that his knee is far from 100%. Normally when he's struggling to get into things he leads up the ground hard and provides a linking option moving the ball forward. He did none of that yesterday.

                            So I very much doubt he was capable of playing on the ball.
                            Agree, from ground level at the game it was very noticable that he didn't get on his bike and move much from the forward 50.

                            We also kicked to him on a number of occasions when he was clearly playing the decoy in order to creat space back through the corridor.

                            At one stage Hall dummy lead to the pocket, came back and then went again, only to turn around and blast Malceski for not moving into the space behind to provide the option.

                            We clearly had some plans to counter act the way the Crows set up defensively but with our poor disposal were not able to execute these.

                            DST
                            "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                            • ROK Lobster
                              RWO Life Member
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 8658

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DST
                              Agree, from ground level at the game it was very noticable that he didn't get on his bike and move much from the forward 50.

                              We also kicked to him on a number of occasions when he was clearly playing the decoy in order to creat space back through the corridor.

                              At one stage Hall dummy lead to the pocket, came back and then went again, only to turn around and blast Malceski for not moving into the space behind to provide the option.

                              We clearly had some plans to counter act the way the Crows set up defensively but with our poor disposal were not able to execute these.

                              DST
                              Interesting points DST. Are the players too drilled to be flexible, or is there just a lack of communication in the forward line. Much has been written about Kirk's marshalling role around stoppages. Perhaps there needs to be more talk in and around the forward line (not that there is the same amount of time as around a stoppage) or better communication from the runners?

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                              • JF_Bay22_SCG
                                expat Sydneysider
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 3978

                                #30
                                Originally posted by liz
                                I reckon the fact that he barely strayed from the 50m arc is a sign that his knee is far from 100%. Normally when he's struggling to get into things he leads up the ground hard and provides a linking option moving the ball forward. He did none of that yesterday.

                                So I very much doubt he was capable of playing on the ball.
                                This could very well be true Liz. But with the way the Swans conceil things like this. And with the Sydney media not asking questions, I guess we'll never know the truth,. will we?

                                "Earth to Tim Morrissey Nikki Tugwell & the Sydney AFL media-come in Tim/Nikki-CAN YOU ASK THE CLUB/PLAYER ABOUT HIS HEALTH PLEASE!!!!!! "

                                JF
                                "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                                (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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