if we cant beat hawthorn

[goswannie14]

I doubt it. McLaren would be treading on eggshells if we had him again this weekend. We may even get favourable treatment from the umpires. They'll be out to save face after Saturday night.

You're kidding right? The only way that would happen is if Roos or Hall or whoever came out, bagged the umpires, copped a $20,000 fine. That's what Essendon did a few years ago, and they are still looked after. I am referring to all of their games, not just against the Swans.

[Industrial Fan]

Yes, with better umpiring we may have won, but playing better would have had a bigger impact.

That is a very aggravating point of view.

Of course we can play better than Essendon. And we can play much better than we did on the night. That doesn't change the fact that we did enough to win - except for the intervention of the umpires.

[NMWBloods]

That is a very aggravating point of view.

Of course we can play better than Essendon. And we can play much better than we did on the night. That doesn't change the fact that we did enough to win - except for the intervention of the umpires.

I don't think we did do enough to win.

[liz]

I don't think we did do enough to win.

Two inches shorter padding and we would have won. So in that sense they did do enough to win. But of course they didn't actually win so in that sense they didn't do enough.

Does any of this make sense

[NMWBloods]

Two inches shorter padding and we would have won. So in that sense they did do enough to win. But of course they didn't actually win so in that sense they didn't do enough.

Does any of this make sense

Maybe!

I reckon the ball still would have hit the post anyway, given its direction.

As for the umpiring, even if the ball had been called out, it doesn't mean that everything else would have occurred the same and hence we win.

[Eala ?ireann]

I have to say the umpiring cost me my night's sleep and probably a year off my life-expectancy. It was horrendous (as is the rule they're being compelled to enforce), but the Bombers beat us, NOT the men in yellow!

We delivered the ball badly and had a real lack of intensity for much of the game. Often, people were completely static when the ball carrier was looking for an option upfield.

Umpires = fools, yes. Swans however, need to get their act together, pull their finger out, pull up their socks..........

[Bleed Red Blood]

Which game has been decided purely because the umpires stuffed up??

2004 - Essendon VS Sydney at the Telstra Dome.

- Craig Bolton takes a mark, Dean Soloman is given a free kick, goal.
- Nathan Lovett-Murray throws the ball to Lloyd, goal.
etc.

[Industrial Fan]

2004 - Essendon VS Sydney at the Telstra Dome.

- Craig Bolton takes a mark, Dean Soloman is given a free kick, goal.
- Nathan Lovett-Murray throws the ball to Lloyd, goal.
etc.

Worst umpiring decision I have seen yet.

That game is burnt in my mind.

[NMWBloods]

That was one of the worst displays of umpiring I can remember, but again it wasn't why we lost. Giving the Bombers a 7 goal break had more to do with it!

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I'm so tired of hearing "It's not the umpires fault, we were beaten by a better team" etc etc. Was the scoreline not 11.8 to 11.7? so Essendon have one more point than us, yet some people are acting like they had 20 more scoring shots and we should be lucky we only lost by a point. I admit Sydney played sloppy, frustrating football, but i still think we deserved the win, and there were too many blatant umpire 'errors' to just put it down to the umpires having a bad night.

[liz]

That was one of the worst displays of umpiring I can remember, but again it wasn't why we lost. Giving the Bombers a 7 goal break had more to do with it!

err...they never had a 7 goal break. That is a 42 point lead. I don't think their lead ever got up much further than 24 points and that was in the first 10 minutes. The Swans were well back into the contest by midway through the first quarter, even though they still lagged by just under 3 goals on the scoreboard.

[Triple B]

NMW is talking about the MCG game in 2004 when he talks of the 7 goal lead. You guys need to keep up.

[NMWBloods]

Thank you!

[goswannie14]

NMW is talking about the MCG game in 2004 when he talks of the 7 goal lead. You guys need to keep up.

I thought it was TelstraDome.

[NMWBloods]

I thought it was TelstraDome.

That was 2006.