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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    #46
    Originally posted by Mogg0
    You people and your supposed 'football brains' really are quite hopeless. Mathews isn't the best tagger in the game but he damn well does a fine job the vast majority of the time. Mathews lacks personality, fire and emotion on the field and I think this works against him in the eyes of the cynical idiots that give this board its name. Regardless, he consistently shuts down opposition player's, and thus his job is done. He is not a playmaker as so many of you seem to think he should be, and he never will be.

    Seriously though, shut the @@@@ up about this issue. Nobody of any authority is listening to your Mathews' related whingeing and, even if they were, they certainly wouldn't be taking advice from you.
    Don't you tell me to shut up...Mr. "Come bloody lately"!

    Mathews is an absolutely shocking user of the ball. He very rarely shuts down a good player a la Kirk, Rawlings, Sewell and Ling tagging. We on the board know just as much about football as you so don't you come on here trying to tell people to shut up. It is not good enough. You're opinion (YES OPINION) is as worthless as ours.

    Learn to behave yourself Magg0 and, while you're at it, learn to show respect to fellow supporters who have been coming here a lot longer than you.

    Go Bloods!
    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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    • Jewels
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      #47
      Originally posted by sharp9
      Don't you tell me to shut up...Mr. "Come bloody lately"!

      Mathews is an absolutely shocking user of the ball. He very rarely shuts down a good player a la Kirk, Rawlings, Sewell and Ling tagging. We on the board know just as much about football as you so don't you come on here trying to tell people to shut up. It is not good enough. You're opinion (YES OPINION) is as worthless as ours.

      Learn to behave yourself Magg0 and, while you're at it, learn to show respect to fellow supporters who have been coming here a lot longer than you.

      Go Bloods!
      Hear, hear Sharpie, very eloquantly put!

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      • dendol
        fat-arsed midfielder
        • Oct 2003
        • 1483

        #48
        Careful there sharp9, he is the "Grandson of South Melbourne legend Keith Schaefer." That makes him an authority!!

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        • Yakety_Yak
          On the Rookie List
          • Sep 2006
          • 58

          #49
          Some of you ought go along and watch a game or a few!

          Who has Ben Mattews played on this year?

          L Power - how did BM he go against the elite?
          T Johnstone - "
          B Harvey - "
          J Akermanis - "
          J Hird - "
          K Cornes - "
          N del Santo -"

          Very ordinary lot that!!!!!!

          Murphy - not yet out of training wheels

          Yep! you experts..... who have obviously never played a decent game don't know what sacrifice is!.... "Leadership Group" does that mean anything in moronville?

          Not pretty and yes someone will get a go eventually when those who KNOW reckon there is someone willing and better!

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          • Matt79
            Bring it on!
            • Sep 2004
            • 3143

            #50
            Originally posted by Yakety_Yak
            Some of you ought go along and watch a game or a few!

            Who has Ben Mattews played on this year?

            No one on here is saying Mattews has played a bad game, it is Mathews we are more concerned about.
            Last edited by Matt79; 18 July 2007, 09:10 PM.
            Swannies for life!

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            • goswannie14
              Leadership Group
              • Sep 2005
              • 11166

              #51
              Originally posted by Matt79
              No one on here is saying Mattews has played a bad game, it is Matthews we are more concerned about.
              I thought it was Ben Mathews.
              Does God believe in Atheists?

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              • Matt79
                Bring it on!
                • Sep 2004
                • 3143

                #52
                Originally posted by goswannie14
                I thought it was Ben Mathews.

                Damn, you were too quick!
                Swannies for life!

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                • Yakety_Yak
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 58

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Matt79
                  No one on here is saying Mattews has played a bad game, it is Mathews we are more concerned about.
                  Never heard of him but maybe that is the imaginary Swans footy match you watch?

                  How are you concerned he is coming to the end of his career... he absolutely smashed all but Brent Harvey in that list! and I add ....Peter Bell... who is the Kirk of Freo!


                  It doesn't seem like you are concerned at all just you fink someone who plays agaist a public service amateur deserves the spot....

                  BM although in the bottom 11/22 has CEMENTED his spot!

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #54
                    Can I get a translation on this?
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16791

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Yakety_Yak
                      Some of you ought go along and watch a game or a few!

                      Who has Ben Mattews played on this year?

                      L Power - how did BM he go against the elite?
                      T Johnstone - "
                      B Harvey - "
                      J Akermanis - "
                      J Hird - "
                      K Cornes - "
                      N del Santo -"

                      Very ordinary lot that!!!!!!

                      Murphy - not yet out of training wheels

                      Yep! you experts..... who have obviously never played a decent game don't know what sacrifice is!.... "Leadership Group" does that mean anything in moronville?

                      Not pretty and yes someone will get a go eventually when those who KNOW reckon there is someone willing and better!
                      Not sure about all those opponents.

                      Crouch spent most of the Dogs game on Aker except when Aker was trying to tag Buchanan - though can't remember who went onto Aker once Crouch did his hammy. By that time the game was already one and Aker was pretty irrelevant all afternoon.

                      Against Port, I believe Mathews substantially played on Peter B (and did a pretty good job).

                      You've missed Ablett - who carved up Mathews.

                      Ben did quite well on Dal Santo for the first half but lost him a bit later in the game.

                      Hird had different opponents switching onto him throughout the night. Ben was probably on his for part of the time but I don't think it was for very long.

                      Can't quite remember back to the Lions game.

                      Against WC, he was up against Braun and allowed Braun far too much space and easy uncontested ball in the first half. Braun was possibly the one who inflicted most of the damage early in that game.

                      It's been an up and down year for Mathews. He's been much better than last season (when I don't think he was fit) and has done some very very good shut down roles on some quality players. But when he's been bad he's been very very ordinary indeed - though you have to question whether the likes of Harvey or Ablett were really fair match-ups for him. And when he is getting carved up by an opponent, his ability to hurt going the opposite way is so low that an opponent doesn't need to pay him much respect. That's his greatest weakness.

                      He most certainly deserves his spot in the team right now. His game against Bell was particularly impressive. But there will come a time in the not too distant future where his limitations will start to outweigh his value - especially when the need to blood some youngsters becomes compelling (ie we're no longer genuine contenders) and one of them will need his role as a way of a gentle introduction to senior footy.

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                      • reigning premier
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4335

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Matt79
                        No one on here is saying Mattews has played a bad game, it is Mathews we are more concerned about.
                        Originally posted by goswannie14
                        I thought it was Ben Mathews.
                        Pretty lame gys... If all you've got is typo's and splleing mistakes....

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          #57
                          Damn Liz, don't let facts and reasoning cloud a good agrument.
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                          • goswannie14
                            Leadership Group
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 11166

                            #58
                            Originally posted by reigning premier
                            Pretty lame gys... If all you've got is typo's and splleing mistakes....
                            Does God believe in Atheists?

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                            • Yakety_Yak
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 58

                              #59
                              Originally posted by liz
                              Not sure about all those opponents.

                              Crouch spent most of the Dogs game on Aker except when Aker was trying to tag Buchanan - though can't remember who went onto Aker once Crouch did his hammy. By that time the game was already one and Aker was pretty irrelevant all afternoon.

                              Against Port, I believe Mathews substantially played on Peter B (and did a pretty good job).

                              You've missed Ablett - who carved up Mathews.

                              Ben did quite well on Dal Santo for the first half but lost him a bit later in the game.

                              Hird had different opponents switching onto him throughout the night. Ben was probably on his for part of the time but I don't think it was for very long.

                              Can't quite remember back to the Lions game.

                              Against WC, he was up against Braun and allowed Braun far too much space and easy uncontested ball in the first half. Braun was possibly the one who inflicted most of the damage early in that game.

                              It's been an up and down year for Mathews. He's been much better than last season (when I don't think he was fit) and has done some very very good shut down roles on some quality players. But when he's been bad he's been very very ordinary indeed - though you have to question whether the likes of Harvey or Ablett were really fair match-ups for him. And when he is getting carved up by an opponent, his ability to hurt going the opposite way is so low that an opponent doesn't need to pay him much respect. That's his greatest weakness.

                              He most certainly deserves his spot in the team right now. His game against Bell was particularly impressive. But there will come a time in the not too distant future where his limitations will start to outweigh his value - especially when the need to blood some youngsters becomes compelling (ie we're no longer genuine contenders) and one of them will need his role as a way of a gentle introduction to senior footy.
                              Suggest you re watch the Lions and Port and Saints game
                              Lions- L Power all day and flogged him
                              Port - K Cornes all day "
                              Saints - Del santo all day "

                              You might be right about Aker?

                              Oh yes forgot about Ablett... but the point is they are all key (top 5) opposition players and he has obviously been playing shut down role that must be considered important to the side and game plan. Suggest some of you look at the body language of other Swan player peers as to respect he gets from them... but I guess they don't know nearly as much as you interweb forum warriors

                              Yes his time is coming to a close.

                              Just putting in a different opinion .... but ya all carry on.. get the frustration out of your system!

                              PS ^To smarty pants the spellchecker...Must be a boring life reading dicktionaries....

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                              • Zlatorog
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 1748

                                #60
                                Originally posted by RogueSwan
                                Damn Liz, don't let facts and reasoning cloud a good agrument.
                                agrument?

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