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  • liz
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    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16739

    #16
    Originally posted by Matt79
    MELBOURNE vs SYDNEY
    Mathew James (5) (VIC), Chris Kamolins (19) (VIC), Simon Meredith (21) (VIC)

    In the Port V Crows game it is a Mc Attack.
    The 3 umps are - McClaren, McInerney and McBurney!!
    Thank goodness that's not our game. McInerney is even worse than McClaren in paying too many soft frees and paying them inconsistently.

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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      #17
      Originally posted by ugg
      I would leave out Dempster, Richards, Brennan.

      but I suspect it will be Dempster, Richards, Laidlaw.
      I would leave out McVeigh....if I could.
      Otherwise...out go ...Grundy, Brennan, Richards
      In come....Laidlaw, Dempster, Ablett
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • liz
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        • Jan 2003
        • 16739

        #18
        Originally posted by ernie koala
        I would leave out McVeigh....if I could.
        Otherwise...out go ...Grundy, Brennan, Richards
        In come....Laidlaw, Dempster, Ablett
        So whose going to play on Newton or Robertson or Miller (if they send him forward) while Bolton is standing Neitz? I know Bolton is good, but to expect him to cover every tall forward on his own is a bit much.

        At least one of Grundy or Richards is a cert to play - and to remain in the team until Barry is ready to return, and quite possibly beyond that too.

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        • Nico
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          • Jan 2003
          • 11329

          #19
          Originally posted by TheHood
          At the rish of sounding ignorant to the coaching staff, who know best, I have to agree with you.

          NOG is not meant to star as his job is usually one about accountability, however when you've got to make decisions when you've got the nut, NOG is only JUST there.

          He does get turned inside out too often and his kicks are just indiscriminate rubbish most of the time.

          I like NOG but he has about 2 good games a year. Not enough to give him preference over potential.
          Still cringe at that 2005 GF brilliant pass to Cousins. Come to think of it the one thing that stands out in his career, no 2 things, his third up in the last Q and desperate dive to knock the ball back in against Geelong in that famous Nick "i see it but dont believe it" Davis SF. Apart from that I struggle to come up with many highlights.

          In his defence though his last 2 years he has struggle with back related hammies, but that's what happens when players are continually played injured.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #20
            Originally posted by liz
            So whose going to play on Newton or Robertson or Miller (if they send him forward) while Bolton is standing Neitz? I know Bolton is good, but to expect him to cover every tall forward on his own is a bit much.

            At least one of Grundy or Richards is a cert to play - and to remain in the team until Barry is ready to return, and quite possibly beyond that too.
            Grundy has shown nothing so far..
            Since when do you need a tall to play on Robertson.. I'd prefer a runner, to run him off his lazy legs....ie Dempster or Laidlaw
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • ugg
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              • Jan 2003
              • 15963

              #21
              Who'll play on Newton then? or Miller or Holland if they go forward?
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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #22
                Originally posted by ugg
                Who'll play on Newton then? or Miller or Holland if they go forward?
                McVeigh and Mathews.. of course...
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Matt79
                  MELBOURNE vs SYDNEY
                  Mathew James (5) (VIC), Chris Kamolins (19) (VIC), Simon Meredith (21) (VIC)

                  In the Port V Crows game it is a Mc Attack.
                  The 3 umps are - McClaren, McInerney and McBurney!!
                  James = 2 games (2 win, 1 loss (Saints))
                  Kamolins = 2( (2wins)
                  Meredith = 4(3W, 1L (Geelong))

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9718

                    #24
                    Originally posted by liz
                    and clearly still harbours hopes of his 200th game sometime later this season. We'll see.



                    Also tips Ted to make way for Ablett - with Laidlaw and Dempster unsurprisingly set to miss.
                    This is from another thread, but I'm responding to something relevant to this thread

                    I have to wonder sometimes whether somehow Dempster has just worked himself into a position where the coaching staff have a definite view of the type of position that he will play because of his aerobic capacity. If they are keeping Grundy in the team as a tall defender, apart from weight (and I don't really see Heath as looking particuarly stronger than Sean) they physically don't differ too much... except I would say that Sean is significantly more athletic than Heath. Has someone just looked at two and decided "You- you're a flanker/wing... you- you're a KP prospect!"... Heath is a strong mark for his size, but Sean is too... I normally have a bit of an issue with Sean, but that is because he doesn't seem overly creative as a HBFer, I think his man on man defensive work is perfectly fine, and being a creative HBFer doesn't exactly appear to be the type of role they are trying Heath out in... and I like the idea of Heath as a defender...

                    Sean vs. Heath
                    Height: 191 vs. 192
                    Weight: 89 vs. 97
                    Games (2007): 12 vs. 7
                    Avg Disposals: 10.5 vs. 5.9
                    Goals: 3.4 vs. 0.1
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ugg
                      Who'll play on Newton then? or Miller or Holland if they go forward?
                      I agree with stellation....Dempster, although a little light, has shown he is a good spoiler and could run any of the three you mention, off their feet. Grundy is 1 cm taller, heavier (but not noticably stronger), slower and with no where near the staying power, and not as versatile.... Dempster should not of been dropped in the first place, after a pretty good game against the beagles.
                      I sense both Brennen and Grundy are on trial for next year, I see no other reason for their sellection above other ,more obviously worthy, candidates.
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • connolly
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 2461

                        #26
                        Originally posted by stellation
                        This is from another thread, but I'm responding to something relevant to this thread

                        I have to wonder sometimes whether somehow Dempster has just worked himself into a position where the coaching staff have a definite view of the type of position that he will play because of his aerobic capacity. If they are keeping Grundy in the team as a tall defender, apart from weight (and I don't really see Heath as looking particuarly stronger than Sean) they physically don't differ too much... except I would say that Sean is significantly more athletic than Heath. Has someone just looked at two and decided "You- you're a flanker/wing... you- you're a KP prospect!"... Heath is a strong mark for his size, but Sean is too... I normally have a bit of an issue with Sean, but that is because he doesn't seem overly creative as a HBFer, I think his man on man defensive work is perfectly fine, and being a creative HBFer doesn't exactly appear to be the type of role they are trying Heath out in... and I like the idea of Heath as a defender...

                        Sean vs. Heath
                        Height: 191 vs. 192
                        Weight: 89 vs. 97
                        Games (2007): 12 vs. 7
                        Avg Disposals: 10.5 vs. 5.9
                        Goals: 3.4 vs. 0.1
                        Dempster is very unlucky but not because of bias against him. He is a running back and with Kenneally and Milcevski together again our defensive structure simply doesn't need three running backs. He's clearly not a key position defender (not enough upper body strength) and isn't nippy enough or strong enough in the tackle to take the small forwards. His other role as a running midfield defender (as against Embley) isn't really needed with the D's blue collar short arsed midfield. Don't think he was dropped after the Eagles game because of poor performance (he had 22 touches and 4 tackles) but because of a lack of a match up. Dempster is like the wallflower at the dance at the moment - can't find a match up.
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                        • ugg
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #27
                          Schmidt out!

                          Emergencies: Schmidt, Laidlaw, Dempster.
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                          • hammo
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5554

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ugg
                            Schmidt out!

                            Emergencies: Schmidt, Laidlaw, Dempster.
                            He was average last week but still a strange decision.
                            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                            • Robbo
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                              • May 2007
                              • 2946

                              #29
                              Reputation, reputation, reputation.

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                              • HBAsyd
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                                • Aug 2007
                                • 50

                                #30
                                Percentage Key

                                Percentage will be key in this win.

                                Saints will win, so a must win, but we will thrash Melbourne.

                                Why would they want to win? too important picks in the draft to come for 08.

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