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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15976

    #46
    Actually that's the Champion Data rankings they are using which takes into account more than just the pure raw stats, which does take into account things like kicking efficiency and contested marks.
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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #47
      Originally posted by ugg
      Actually that's the Champion Data rankings they are using which takes into account more than just the pure raw stats, which does take into account things like kicking efficiency and contested marks.
      Then that amazes me more as his offensive game is just ordinary and today was not much better.

      Yes, he does some good defensive work, which is not measured by Champion Data, but that's not the area our midfield needs now.
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      • blinddog
        Warming the Bench
        • Jan 2003
        • 349

        #48
        From


        "Roos said Tadhg Kennelly looks ?pretty positive? to play next week"
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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          #49
          Originally posted by robbieando
          Using this post, I would only bring back Buchanan next week IF we dropped Schneider. But that isn't going to happen (dropping Schneider) I wouldn't think. I have always thought (going back to early 2005) that Schneider and Buchanan can't play in the same side to together. Somehow they managed to work it in end to win a Premiership in 05 and get back to the GF last, but this has been a shocker for Buchanan and not much better for Schneider (who is at least kicking goals - most weeks).

          Today I felt Schneider was OK without being great (maybe if he kicked those goals instead of behinds his game would of been looked at differently) but the team balance in the defence and midfield looked as good as its been all year (I'm not going to talk about the forward line because we just all know....). Whatever reason that was, be it Buchanan missing or the fact we had our defence back together finally (minus Kennelly), we had our balance right for once this season going forward and helps the forward line regardless of its makeup.

          End of the day I think Barlow can make way because he isn't really used for match up's at the moment and we WILL bring Hall back (regardless of how good the forward line looked) and he really is the only person I can think of dropping. Dempster? No. LRT? No. I rather replace Ablett (If injury does force him out) with Schmidt than Buchanan (and I'm not THINKING of risking Kennelly). If Ablett plays then just the one change and that should be Barlow out for Hall.
          Possibly Barlow will be retained because of his versatility and his size to play on Pendelbury. I thought that our forward line functioned so well today not because Hall was out but because we had Malceski further up the ground and delivering precise passes to leading forwards. I think Schnieder is a very good player but he is just not nailing the goals a small forward should at the moment. He isn't strong enough to break from packs like Buchanon or versatile enough to take a defensive midfield role. The key match ups for us in the midfield will be against Swan, Lockyer, Burns and Buckley. He isn't strong enough in the tackle to take those players. We have good small forwards in Davo and McVeigh and Magic is a dangerous crumbing forward. Schmidt is just as dangerous crumbing and gives us more in the midfield. So maybe Schnieder will sit this one out.
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          • SimonH
            Salt future's rising
            • Aug 2004
            • 1647

            #50
            I think we can say that Ablett's gone. So if all goes well with injuries:

            In: Kennelly, Hall, Buchanan
            Out: Ablett, Crouch, Barlow (sorry)

            Thought Barlow was really good today. In fact, even his game against Collingwood was underrated for a 'second game blues' performance. He has a Goodes-like 'take 'em on and damn the torpedoes' quality about him that is very attractive to watch and stops Sydney becoming too formulaic.

            However, it's hard to see who else could go out from the 22 who played today. Certainly, LRT is going to be a crucial difference from the round 21 game; and my views on Dempster are oft-stated (and good to see some support for 'em in this thread!).

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            • smasher
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2005
              • 627

              #51
              Barlow against Pendelbery is a very good idea,but Roos won't see it that way.
              I also think our forward line is so much more open and presents many more opportunities when BBB doesn't play.The attention he gets crowds up the forward area and by doing that our outside forwards don't get a look in.Look what they did on Sunday when Davis,O'Keefe and O'Laughlin had all the room they wanted.

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              • Snake
                On the Rookie List
                • Mar 2007
                • 330

                #52
                In: Kennelly, Hall, Buchanan

                Out: Barlow, Ablett, Schneider

                Schneider was average at best, those two goals he missed were simply terrible.

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                • Snake
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 330

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Robbo
                  Someone convince me why Hall should be brought back in?
                  Hall to the swans is Mr September IMHO, a big game player that handles finals games good.

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                  • hammo
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5554

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Snake
                    In: Kennelly, Hall, Buchanan

                    Out: Barlow, Ablett, Schneider

                    Schneider was average at best, those two goals he missed were simply terrible.
                    Despite Schneider's dismal goal kicking, he still offers more to the team than Crouch a the moment.
                    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                    • Plugger46
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 3674

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Robbo
                      Someone convince me why Hall should be brought back in?
                      Because he's our leading goalkicker (has been every year since he got to the club) and a star. You don't leave a bloke of his quality out if he's fit enough to play.
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                      • yoshi
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 20

                        #56
                        barlow is a gun, roos better keep him in...
                        a million times better then the more 'experienced' bevan..

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                        • originalswan
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 550

                          #57
                          I also believe that Buchanon will come back in, but am surprised as for the first time this year no one is calling for Bevan's head. I think it's great that he has proved himself to the coaches and finally now to the fans.

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                          • bandwagon
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2003
                            • 565

                            #58
                            Originally posted by originalswan
                            .. am surprised as for the first time this year no one is calling for Bevan's head. I think it's great that he has proved himself to the coaches and finally now to the fans.
                            ditto Mathews.

                            My preference is - OUT:Ablett, Crouch IN: Hall, Kennelly
                            And thought very hard about replacing Barlow with Buchanan/Schmidt.

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                            • Robbo
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2007
                              • 2946

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Snake
                              Hall to the swans is Mr September IMHO, a big game player that handles finals games good.
                              Did you not watch the GF last year?

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                              • Plugger46
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 3674

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Robbo
                                Did you not watch the GF last year?
                                Did you watch the QF and PF?

                                Arguably BOG in both games.
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