Is Goodes our only "elite" player?

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  • swantastic
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2006
    • 7275

    #31
    Originally posted by Cheer Squad
    How about Fosdike?
    Done .
    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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    • Sanecow
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2003
      • 6917

      #32
      You put him in the wrong group though.

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      • swantastic
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2006
        • 7275

        #33
        Originally posted by Sanecow
        You put him in the wrong group though.
        Where do you think he should be?
        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #34
          Originally posted by swantastic

          I dont think ever will be
          B1
          Schneider
          Monty
          LRT
          Benny
          Bevan


          Did i leave any one out?
          Yes McVeigh ....Maybe you'd like to give him his own category..?
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • Sanecow
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Mar 2003
            • 6917

            #35
            Originally posted by swantastic
            Where do you think he should be?
            John Howard will be an elite AFL footballer before Fosdike will.

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            • Cheer Squad
              Sydney Swans
              • Apr 2007
              • 1948

              #36
              Originally posted by swantastic
              Done .
              And how about Teddy Richards?

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              • DeadlyAkkuret
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2006
                • 4547

                #37
                Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                MickyO - has-a-been!!!!
                Indeed.

                Swantastic, I'm going to drop you again if you keep up talk like this.

                Someone should tell him he's now a has-been. Go on. I dare you.

                MOL's playing like a 22 year old trapped in a 30 year old body (kinda like me!!). Micky's got at least another two years (and maybe a bit) left in him.
                I think he meant has been, as in he has been elite. Am i right?

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                • dread and might
                  Back, strapped and intact
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 949

                  #38
                  Originally posted by stellation
                  If that is the criteria then, love him or not understand football, Davis should be included.
                  fair enough. I also left out Hall who possibly should be included though I hate the " if fully fit" disclaimer.
                  I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                    I think he meant has been, as in he has been elite. Am i right?
                    According to the rest of the competition and the media and the fans he's still an elite player.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16778

                      #40
                      I don't think that the criterion of whether a player would walk into the best 22 of all other clubs is close to a valid one to determine 'eliteness'.

                      Most lists are quite even and if you took an individual player in the top 15 on almost every list and compared him to the 22nd player on every other club's list, you would be able to mount a very strong case for him being picked ahead of that 22nd player. For some clubs that top 15 might be closer to a top 12. For some it would be a top 17. But for very few would it be a top 3 or 4. Clearly in some cases player type comes into consideration but those are exceptions rather than the rule.

                      For me 'elite' means a player having a reasonable case of being in the top 20 or so players in the competition. One could reasonably extend that definition to, say, top 50 - a broader elite but arguably a justifiable one.

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                      • bennyfrou
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 327

                        #41
                        in addition, i kind of think of it like Judd's moving back to Melbourne. He announced he wanted to leave WCE (to go home) and every club wanted a piece of him (would have been all the teams had he not specified melb based).

                        I'm certain that the same thing would happen if Goodes announced he wanted to leave Sydney (touch wood). This kind of fits in with the "walking in to any team's best (insert number here)' school of thought but with a demand affiliation.

                        Goodes - all teams would bend over backwards to get him
                        ROK - not all teams would want him but majority yes
                        Kirk - bit old but most teams would want him
                        Hall - bit old and plays archaically half of the teams would want him
                        Eski - bit young but most teams would want him based on potential
                        Kennelly - all bar one or two would want him

                        Therefore, yes Goodes is our only Elite player in my view, with Kennelly very almost there and Eski our next. ROK an unlucky mention here.

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          #42
                          But then, for those at the bottom end of the list ... they could shine when they go to another team (environment, etc.), e.g. Craig Bolton, so all is not lost.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • Margie
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 800

                            #43
                            I was thinking elite, as in say currently the top 10 players in the League. In that respect, as bennyfrou said, Goodes would be the only member of our team that you could confidently say every other club would welcome.

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                            • DeadlyAkkuret
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 4547

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                              I think of elite as the top 50.
                              I think of it as the top 28.

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                              • DeadlyAkkuret
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 4547

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                                I think it would be good if they had a top 37!
                                Goodes IS the top 37.

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