Buchanan and Schneider offered as trade bait

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  • Donners
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1061

    #31
    I'd be very disappointed to lose either of these players, unless they desperately wanted out. We have so few players with run and spark that to get rid of them would be utterly foolish IMO.

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    • Lucky Knickers
      Fandom of Fabulousness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4220

      #32
      Don't have a problem with either of them going. It's been a mutually satisfying relationship with the two of them for a few years but their contribution this season was under expectation. Good chance for both swans and the gobbledocks to have fresh starts.
      Both of them have cemented places in the clubs history.

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #33
        What Lucky said.

        *Albeit a hell of a whole lot better than I would have put it. I probably would have started another fight.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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        • Missy
          On the Rookie List
          • Mar 2006
          • 445

          #34
          Originally posted by #73
          Not Buchanan. He kicked the winning goal in the 2005 GF and shoulda got the Norm Smith. For that act alone we should hang onto him till he's in a walking frame.
          Thats the problem at the Swans...holding onto guys and giving them games due to past merit/form. We need to stop living in the past and look towards the future.

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          • reigning premier
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2006
            • 4335

            #35
            We could maybe lose one, but not both. I've seen these guys for a long time of being from a similar mould. Both small, quick, skilled and can kick a few goals when they want to. But I'd hate to see them both go.

            But what to trade for one of them???

            Somehow, if we could get Tenace & Matner and still keep pick 11, I'd be happy. Tenace and maybe Boyle even. But for @@@@'s sake, let's keep pick 11!!

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #36
              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              Why do people keep bringing up Moore and Phillips as potential senior players. They are both too small! You have to be brilliant footballers to make it at their size and neither of them have better than average ability. I suspect they will both be delisted when the trades are over.
              Phillips is the same height as Crouch (just needs to bulk up, but he's only 20yo) and Moore is the same size as Buchanan, Fosdike, and Schneider.

              If either of them want to go or we can get good trades for them then why not? I think they're both good players but both have major flaws too (Buchanan disposal and Schneider lack of intensity).
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #37
                Originally posted by shaun..
                I hope not! I'd rather we delisted a few instead.
                The idea of trading is to give up something to get something in return. Buchanan is worthy of a swap with a good player or an early second round pick, hence why the Swans are shopping him around.

                Delisting players is a separate issue to trading, and just delisting fringe players isn't going to strengthen the list.

                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                Why do people keep bringing up Moore and Phillips as potential senior players. They are both too small! You have to be brilliant footballers to make it at their size and neither of them have better than average ability. I suspect they will both be delisted when the trades are over.
                Agree with Phillips but I think Moore deserves a good run next year
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  #38
                  schneider:

                  Expendable. Hasnt kicked on and with Davis and McVeigh and half a dozen other potentials for crumbing forward he wont be missed much. Relatively high currency value to his age and flag.

                  Buchanan:

                  His best is past him IMO. He's a player who during 05/06 got the absolute best out of his limited ability. I cant see him capturing that form again consistanty, so we might as well get something for him while he's still useful.

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                  • shaun..
                    Stuck in Reserves
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 691

                    #39
                    Originally posted by hammo
                    The idea of trading is to give up something to get something in return. Buchanan is worthy of a swap with a good player or an early second round pick, hence why the Swans are shopping him around.

                    Delisting players is a separate issue to trading, and just delisting fringe players isn't going to strengthen the list.
                    Yes, thanks for clarifying the trading part with me, I was rather confused with how it all worked. But with some of the names that have been thrown around regarding us (Miller and co.), I would much rather keep those players - if a good deal could be done then I'm all for it.
                    "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                    • cruiser
                      What the frack!
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 6114

                      #40
                      I'd much prefer we offered Bevan and McVeigh as trade bait instead of Monty and Schneider. I still think Schneider has a lot to offer and am prepared to wait another year for him to lift to the next level, which I'm sure he can do. He's an exciting player who appears to be committed to the Swans. His fearless calming influence on Barry Hall when Hall looks like he's about to lose it has been a plus on the field too. I get the impression that he and Hall are quite good mates so hopefully Bazza might influence a decision to keep Schneider.

                      What will all the RWOers with Schneider in their nics do if he's traded?
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                      • reigning premier
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4335

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hammo
                        If its Amon then why don't we also trade his business partner as a package deal?

                        you wish.....

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                        • Allymay
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 298

                          #42
                          What will all the RWOers with Schneider in their nics do if he's traded?[/QUOTE]

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                          Follow him wherever he may go!!"

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                          • Donners
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1061

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cruiser
                            I'd much prefer we offered Bevan and McVeigh as trade bait instead of Monty and Schneider.
                            Well, if you want a pair of boots and maybe a spare jumper in return, they might be good bait...

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                            • melb_swan012
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 28

                              #44
                              i think buchanon will go and schneider will stay. Im basing this purely on the fact that they will probably get traded to a melb club and buchanon is a victorian. I love them both and wouldnt want to see either go but reality says that neither have performed to their usual high standards this year and maybe a change of scenary is what they need. I would rather see them go to another club (providing they dont want to stay) and be successful then stay with us, hate it and cost some young kid a spot in the seniors.

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