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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    Originally posted by hammo
    This post is incoherent nonsense.



    The Eagles feel they have a duty of care and that's all that matters. Who cares whether its a legal obligation or not.

    At a time when most in the community believe football clubs should take greater responsibility for preparing their players for life after football, the Eagles' move not to wipe their hands of Cousins and his problems and actually assist his treatment is commendable.

    Cousins clearly has some serious health problems. He has been an employee of the Eagles for his entire adult life - more than 10 years. It's not surprising that close relationships are formed in that time and an employer would want to help him regain his health, not cut ties and watch his life spiral out of control.

    All football clubs should assume a greater duty of care to their players to prepare them for life after football, with a focus on education. Cousins won't have a life after football unless he overcomes his problems, so where's the difference?

    If you watched the entire press conference last night you would also not pontificate on issues you clearly know nothing about, although coming from you this is no surprise.

    Cousins was allowed to return to football on medical advice. His doctors thought the structure the football club provided would assist in his recovery.

    Having failed, the football is being taken away so he has nothing else to concentrate on except his rehabilitation.
    The Swannies have been preparing our boys for life after footy for years.

    The WCE should have sacked benny after his second indescretion, i.e. after he blew their "first chance". The club have failed him miserably by allowing him to continue his unquestioned ways. Now they are paying the price for their bad decision making.

    Hammo ... all Davo did was talk to the friggin press and he was thrown on the "outer" heap for six weeks. Can you imagine what would happen to one of our players if he did like ben cousins does? At the swannies, he wouldn't last longer than five minutes.

    Trust me, once it all dies down - the budgies are going to sever all ties with him. They're just "saying" they're going to support him, etc. etc. They are in major damage control and want to be "seen" to be doing the right thing ... when behind closed doors - they would want to be distancing themselves as far as possible. That's how business works.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      Originally posted by hammo
      They might not have many friends on here judging by the blind hatred espoused time and again, but they have some impressive people in charge of the club, and the way they've offered to continue to support Cousins is most commendable.
      You're kidding right??? That post has given me a great laugh today.

      Let me get this right, these highly impressive people in charge of West Coast have:

      - Fostered a culture (and took bugger all action) in which many of their players have or had issues with either drugs/alcohol etc (Cousins, Kerr, Chick, Sampi etc)

      - Have players associating with criminals or getting themselves criminal records (Cousins, Kerr, Gardiner, Chick etc)

      - Had players flighting - Chick v Embley, Cousins v Kerr

      - Took no notice of the Cousins saga until it became public, then just shipped him off to rehab in the States and bought him back in time to have a run for a few weeks before the finals (instead of delisting him and letting him focus on his fight against drugs and getting his life back on track)

      Yeah all of these things regularly happen at all other 15 clubs

      The buck stops with the administration and coaches who are there to develop the culture, recruit the right type of players and educate them to handle the pressures of a high profile life in the public eye.

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      • reigning premier
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2006
        • 4335

        Someone had to start....

        Might as well be me.....

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        • Chow-Chicker
          Senior Player
          • Jun 2006
          • 1602

          Originally posted by hammo
          All football clubs should assume a greater duty of care to their players to prepare them for life after football, with a focus on education. Cousins won't have a life after football unless he overcomes his problems, so where's the difference?
          Yeah, no worries champ. So every footballer that concludes their playing career at their club should be assisted by that club to get on with their life. Where is the individual's responsibility to commit himself to any form of self help?

          Originally posted by hammo
          If you watched the entire press conference last night you would also not pontificate on issues you clearly know nothing about, although coming from you this is no surprise.
          And of course YOU know everything about them.

          Originally posted by hammo
          Cousins was allowed to return to football on medical advice. His doctors thought the structure the football club provided would assist in his recovery.
          Great advice considering it was the very football environment in which he first formed his addiction, and which he has continued to struggle with. Perhaps some time away from the AFL media spotlight might aid in his recovery far more better....

          Originally posted by hammo
          Having failed, the football is being taken away so he has nothing else to concentrate on except his rehabilitation.
          That's good, and that's if he wants to. He is yet to accept that he has done any wrong or that he has a problem. Huzzah!

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          • Sanecow
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Mar 2003
            • 6917

            Originally posted by Annie Haddad
            The Swannies have been preparing our boys for life after footy for years.
            Rule 1: Hush money is A-OK.

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            • 573v30
              On the bandwagon...
              • Sep 2005
              • 5017

              Originally posted by Sanecow
              Rule 1: Hush money is A-OK.
              Nowhere near as bad as rape or rape allegation though.
              I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                Seriously Hammo. This is not the right place to make excuses for disgraced ex-west coast eagles player ben cousins.

                No one here (other than a few other nuff nuff's) are going to support you supporting disgraced ex-west coast eagles player ben cousins.

                You have to face facts ... the guy is 29 (certainly old enough to know better) and the guy did BAD things. Got punished for doing BAD things, then went out and did BAD things again.

                All the help and opportunity in the world was offered to him to clean himself (and his act) up. He slapped opportunity in the face.

                Maybe you should try eagles flying high?
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • Sanecow
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 6917

                  It is understood police will allege in court today that the drug in Cousins? possession was prescription drug diazepam.
                  If my memory serves, "I got it from me mum" is all that's needed to stay a top Aussie bloke?!

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    Originally posted by Sanecow
                    If my memory serves, "I got it from me mum" is all that's needed to stay a top Aussie bloke?!
                    I don't think the drugs charge will stick today. A valium ... give me a break!!

                    He will be found guilty of not doing the blood test. I think it's around a $250 fine.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • Captain
                      Captain of the Side
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3602

                      Originally posted by Sanecow
                      If my memory serves, "I got it from me mum" is all that's needed to stay a top Aussie bloke?!
                      lol too true

                      Makes you wonder though, they didn't sack him for ice, but they sacked him for diazepam.

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                      • Sanecow
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6917

                        I seriously doubt that it would have gone to court for any other West Australian.

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          Originally posted by Captain
                          lol too true

                          Makes you wonder though, they didn't sack him for ice, but they sacked him for diazepam.
                          They sacked him because they had no choice ... he broke the conditions of his "revised" contract - he ran foul of the law.


                          (Although my friends in WA are still insisting that it is a cousins bash-up and that the police in WA want to make sure their new rules are adhered to and had been following disgraced ex-west coast eagles player ben cousins for two days and want to use him as a high-profile example, etc. etc. and that the WCE wanted to get rid of him without paying out his contract and had the police follow him and do their dirty work for them. Give me a break!!! )
                          Last edited by AnnieH; 18 October 2007, 11:47 AM.
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by Sanecow
                            I seriously doubt that it would have gone to court for any other West Australian.
                            Anyone else would have got a slap on the wrist.

                            The conspiracy theorists in WA have been working overtime. (See my post above.)
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • Industrial Fan
                              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3318

                              Originally posted by Captain
                              You're kidding right??? That post has given me a great laugh today.

                              Let me get this right, these highly impressive people in charge of West Coast have:

                              - Fostered a culture (and took bugger all action) in which many of their players have or had issues with either drugs/alcohol etc (Cousins, Kerr, Chick, Sampi etc)

                              - Have players associating with criminals or getting themselves criminal records (Cousins, Kerr, Gardiner, Chick etc)

                              - Had players flighting - Chick v Embley, Cousins v Kerr

                              - Took no notice of the Cousins saga until it became public, then just shipped him off to rehab in the States and bought him back in time to have a run for a few weeks before the finals (instead of delisting him and letting him focus on his fight against drugs and getting his life back on track)

                              Yeah all of these things regularly happen at all other 15 clubs

                              The buck stops with the administration and coaches who are there to develop the culture, recruit the right type of players and educate them to handle the pressures of a high profile life in the public eye.
                              Good post. Next we will hear Collingwood have taken responsible action on Didak.

                              The administration at West Coast is spineless. How anyone could commend them is beyond me. Surely to say "we dont plan to cut ties" is the very minimum that could be expected of the club? They tried to put a foot in both camps by allowing Cousins to return before the finals and it has backfired.
                              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                              • hammo
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 5554

                                Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                                Seriously Hammo. This is not the right place to make excuses for disgraced ex-west coast eagles player ben cousins.

                                No one here (other than a few other nuff nuff's) are going to support you supporting disgraced ex-west coast eagles player ben cousins.
                                Please tell me where I have made excuses or supported Ben Cousins?

                                All I have said is that I find the unbridled joy displayed by many on here at Cousins' relapse quite disgusting.

                                Sacking Cousins was the right decision, but I think the Eagles have also done the right thing in continuing to look after his welfare even though he's no longer part of the club.

                                I don't regard that as supporting Ben Cousins per say. Your blind hatred of the Eagles is making you come up with some wacky things.
                                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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