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  • Chow-Chicker
    Senior Player
    • Jun 2006
    • 1602

    #31
    Originally posted by Layby
    Thanks Dr Phil
    It sounds like you have an addiction. Do you want a prescription?

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    • SimonH
      Salt future's rising
      • Aug 2004
      • 1647

      #32
      Amazing that this has got to the 3rd page.

      Who cares whether in theory, in some alternative universe, we might pick up Cousins? He will never again be registered as an AFL player. Not while Demetriouuuuu continues to run the show.

      Laurence Angwin has real talent and athletic ability, and just needs a bit of guidance and structure. Let's start a thread on whether we should pick him up.

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      • Layby
        Suspended by the MRP
        • May 2006
        • 1803

        #33
        Originally posted by SimonH
        Laurence Angwin has real talent and athletic ability, and just needs a bit of guidance and structure.
        Whereas Cousins is a hack i suppose

        Angwin vs Cousins hmmmm

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          #34
          Originally posted by Layby
          Whereas Cousins is a hack i suppose

          Angwin vs Cousins hmmmm
          Angwin and Cousins living together hmmmm
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #35
            Worth thinking about, but he'd have to do something about that tatt - 'suc his life' indeed ...
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • top40
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2007
              • 933

              #36
              Originally posted by Layby
              Take him in a heartbeat, sadly, we wont get him.
              No, No, No, No, No !!!

              I just can't believe how any Swans supporter could even remotely see any advantage in obtaining Ben Cousins on our list. It just completely staggers me!

              Yes, he is a great player, and deserved a Browlow Medal and 6 times All Australian selection. But please, please, think about this very carefully. This is the bloke who was seen for years as the so called "spiritual" leader of the West Coast Eagles player group. This image of leadership continued even after he was sacked as captain in March 2006. Yet whilst this Cousins leadership image continued, there was clearly a very serious drug culture at the club, as witnessed by not just Cousins, but at least Gardiner, Kerr, Fletcher, and Chick, (and almost certainly several more players). That drug cultural extended to even retired players such as the tragic Mainwaring.

              If Cousins is both a serial drug user and the spirtal leader of the players' group, he must surely be seen as the ring leader and key responsible figure in the drug cultural of the West Coast Eagles. Because of that cultural, I firmly believe that the club not only lost a great player, a superstar if you like, in Cousins himself, but for completely opposite reasons, it lost a second great player and superstar in Chris Judd. I strongly suspect that clean, Victorian Judd suddenly left Perth to get away from this insidious drug culture of the club.

              So there you have it. Almost certainly because of Ben Cousins and his lifestyle, the Eagles have lost two of the game's truely great midfields. With Cousins himself, (without the drugs), and Judd, there was the potential for the Eagles to win a string of Premerships a la the Brisbane Lions (2001-2003). Instead, the 2006 win will be in this era their sole flag, when they should have won in the same era at least 3 and even 4 premierships.

              No I'm sorry. Yes, Ben Cousins was on field a superstar, capable as we witnessed in July against the Swans of taking over 40 possessions. But his life style off field has been shown to be a cancer on the West Coast Eagles football club. Most probably, that cancer will be hard to remove in the years to come.

              But from a purely practical point of view, even setting aside any moral issues, it's a cancer that has fatally impacted upon the club ON FIELD.

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              • Cosmic Wizard
                recruit me pretty please!
                • Sep 2005
                • 620

                #37
                Yes he has big problems.

                But look at some of the other 'talent' we have recuited; Locket took some swan face off in a match, but we still recruited him, and Hall had a seat name for him in the Tribunal.

                Face it, he wasn't caught with coke of estacy, or heroin.

                And if he is to escape his addiction, leaving Perth is the best thing for him.

                Bottom line, there is an election on, so everyone wants to put the boot in.

                Face the hard facts people, if Spider can get a two year contract with us after his record, anyone can!!!!!
                doof-doof

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                • top40
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2007
                  • 933

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
                  Yes he has big problems.

                  But look at some of the other 'talent' we have recuited; Locket took some swan face off in a match, but we still recruited him, and Hall had a seat name for him in the Tribunal.

                  Lockett and Hall were not drug addicts

                  Face it, he wasn't caught with coke of estacy, or heroin.

                  What? I think you will find that he is addicted to at least one of the above. What he was "caught" will is irrevant

                  And if he is to escape his addiction, leaving Perth is the best thing for him.

                  That's where really naivity sets in. Being a drug addicit is not like say, having a knee injury, where it will all get better in time. Its not easy for an addict to give up.


                  Bottom line, there is an election on, so everyone wants to put the boot in.

                  This has nothing to do with the Federal Election

                  Face the hard facts people, if Spider can get a two year contract with us after his record, anyone can!!!!!
                  Like Lockett and Hall, Spider is not a drug addict

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                  • Sanecow
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 6917

                    #39
                    Originally posted by top40
                    Like Lockett and Hall, Spider is not a drug addict
                    Do you actually know which 25 players have failed AFL illicit drug tests?

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                    • Captain
                      Captain of the Side
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3602

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sanecow
                      Do you actually know which 25 players have failed AFL illicit drug tests?
                      Do you?

                      How can anyone say Lockett or Hall are on drugs without proof??

                      Though I can't really imagine plugger on the e's dancing up a storm out in the cross.

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                      • Sanecow
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6917

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Captain
                        Do you?
                        No.

                        Originally posted by Captain
                        How can anyone say Lockett or Hall are on drugs without proof??
                        How can anyone say that any specific AFL player isn't on drugs while the AFL and AFLPA keep the names secret?

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                        • reigning premier
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4335

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Though I can't really imagine plugger on the e's dancing up a storm out in the cross.

                          Hey.... .That's my job.

                          Plugger can go back to nobbling dish lickers....

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                          • Robbo
                            On the Rookie List
                            • May 2007
                            • 2946

                            #43
                            Apparently the charges against him are likely to be dropped, so the AFL can't really de-register him.

                            Source: 6PR in Perth.

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                            • cruiser
                              What the frack!
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 6114

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Robbo
                              Apparently the charges against him are likely to be dropped, so the AFL can't really de-register him.

                              Source: 6PR in Perth.
                              Only the drug charge. He will still be charged with refusing to submit to a drug test.



                              I would not renew my membership of the Swans if they tried to recruit him. Not that I think for a moment that they would. Roos and co know better than to have his poison in our club. Some people on RWO need to read Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray.
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                              • schneidermania
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 13

                                #45
                                Read my previous post everyone ..

                                Cousin cleared good replacement as no. 26 pick in PSD

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