Eski back round 9??

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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11328

    Originally posted by Claret
    Max Rooke




    I wouldn't have thought it was their responsiblity. Even if they did finance medical research and pay for injuries then the clubs would still be paying for their own research in order to get ahead.
    Disagree. They are the governing body, the clubs are supposed to be the stakeholders but as Kennett says they take no notice of the stakeholders. They can't think outside TV rights and NAB Cup rules.

    The AFL could be a much, much more professional body but while you have someone who was a failed manager at a dental supplies company at the helm what else do you expect.
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    • EMJ
      Go Swans Always
      • Jan 2003
      • 1076

      I would like to see Thornton given the same chance for the same operation.
      Due to the fact he is young and playing so well - certainly should also be given the same chance to play in the Seniors this year.

      Good for one is good for the other.
      Love those Swans

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16734

        Here are a couple of articles that give a different side of the story from the optimistic one we were reading yesterday.

        I guess there are always going to be differences of opinion within the medical profession on "alternative" treatments to injuries. Let's just hope they made the decision for the right reasons and taking of the potential risks and benefits into consideration, especially the longer term prognosis. He's too young still to risk his long-term AFL career (not to mention longer term implications post footy) for the sake of regaining an extra half-season now.

        Club's watch Nick Malceski's new-age knee surgery | Herald Sun

        Risky Nick Malceski surgery banned in France | Herald Sun

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          These stories are making me feel very iffy, and I just hope that if it looks like it's not going to work, they can switch to the "standard" op for this injury, and we can see Malceski next season.

          He's only 23, so one season wont kill him.

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          • FootyontheBrain
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2005
            • 146

            This article reminded me of this guy, Willis McGahee. He wrecked his knee in a bowl game in a January Bowl Game.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSySFNv9xNE --WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

            He had this surgery and was back within a few months and still ended up being the 23rd pick in the NFL.



            A few years on now has proven to be a very good running back in the NFL. Most importantly, he's had no other knee injuries since.

            Fingers crossed the same holds true for Eski.

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            • goswannie14
              Leadership Group
              • Sep 2005
              • 11166

              We'llhave to wait and see. I went to school with Chris Bradshaw (current Geelong team doctor and former Richmond club doctor), he was a good guy, but very conservative. His comments come as no surprise.
              Does God believe in Atheists?

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              • Damien
                Living in 2005
                • Jan 2003
                • 3713

                Originally posted by liz
                Here are a couple of articles that give a different side of the story from the optimistic one we were reading yesterday.

                I guess there are always going to be differences of opinion within the medical profession on "alternative" treatments to injuries. Let's just hope they made the decision for the right reasons and taking of the potential risks and benefits into consideration, especially the longer term prognosis. He's too young still to risk his long-term AFL career (not to mention longer term implications post footy) for the sake of regaining an extra half-season now.

                Club's watch Nick Malceski's new-age knee surgery | Herald Sun

                Risky Nick Malceski surgery banned in France | Herald Sun

                What annoyed me about both of those stories is that they didn't get any additional information from the surgeon or from the Swans and one even talks about the same operation from the late 80s.

                I would be amazed if the Swans would allow such a worse case scenario to exist.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9718

                  Originally posted by Mac
                  I would like to see Thornton given the same chance for the same operation.
                  Due to the fact he is young and playing so well - certainly should also be given the same chance to play in the Seniors this year.

                  Good for one is good for the other.
                  Maclescki is already a guy who has cemented a first team spot whilst Thornton is yet to debut, I think it would be foolish to rush Thornton back.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Claret
                    Support Staff
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1104

                    Originally posted by Nico
                    Disagree. They are the governing body, the clubs are supposed to be the stakeholders but as Kennett says they take no notice of the stakeholders. They can't think outside TV rights and NAB Cup rules.
                    Taking no notice of the stakeholders with regard to expansion (which is what Kennett has been complaining about) is a completely different situation.

                    Suggesting that the AFL pay for all medical expenses relating to footballers and their injuries is just a far-fetched pipedream that would never work. I can't think of one professional sport where the governing body pays for injuries and there's probably a good reason for that.
                    And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                    • hammo
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5554

                      Originally posted by Damien
                      What annoyed me about both of those stories is that they didn't get any additional information from the surgeon or from the Swans and one even talks about the same operation from the late 80s.

                      I would be amazed if the Swans would allow such a worse case scenario to exist.
                      I agree Damien. Medical expertise has moved on a lot since the 1980s. The articles should have been balanced up somewhat.
                      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                      • hammo
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5554

                        Originally posted by Claret

                        Suggesting that the AFL pay for all medical expenses relating to footballers and their injuries is just a far-fetched pipedream that would never work. I can't think of one professional sport where the governing body pays for injuries and there's probably a good reason for that.
                        Agree. I think the easiest explanation is that the clubs are the employers of the players, not the AFL.
                        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                        • swantastic
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          Buggy Hawkins had the same operation in the 80's and went on to play for another 9 years,so in that case it looks good.

                          On the other hand 3 other blokes from Footscray(i think he said) had the same thing done and they didnt work with a couple of the tendons snapping and then going back for the traditional operation any way.


                          Lets just cross our fingers and see what happens,but you would have thought that the club doctors would have studied other cases very throughly and provided the club and Melcho all the known facts possible.
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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