Eski back round 9??

[swantastic]

Buggy Hawkins had the same operation in the 80's and went on to play for another 9 years,so in that case it looks good.

On the other hand 3 other blokes from Footscray(i think he said) had the same thing done and they didnt work with a couple of the tendons snapping and then going back for the traditional operation any way.


Lets just cross our fingers and see what happens,but you would have thought that the club doctors would have studied other cases very throughly and provided the club and Melcho all the known facts possible.

[hammo]

Suggesting that the AFL pay for all medical expenses relating to footballers and their injuries is just a far-fetched pipedream that would never work. I can't think of one professional sport where the governing body pays for injuries and there's probably a good reason for that.

Agree. I think the easiest explanation is that the clubs are the employers of the players, not the AFL.

[hammo]

What annoyed me about both of those stories is that they didn't get any additional information from the surgeon or from the Swans and one even talks about the same operation from the late 80s.

I would be amazed if the Swans would allow such a worse case scenario to exist.

I agree Damien. Medical expertise has moved on a lot since the 1980s. The articles should have been balanced up somewhat.

[Claret]

Disagree. They are the governing body, the clubs are supposed to be the stakeholders but as Kennett says they take no notice of the stakeholders. They can't think outside TV rights and NAB Cup rules.

Taking no notice of the stakeholders with regard to expansion (which is what Kennett has been complaining about) is a completely different situation.

Suggesting that the AFL pay for all medical expenses relating to footballers and their injuries is just a far-fetched pipedream that would never work. I can't think of one professional sport where the governing body pays for injuries and there's probably a good reason for that.

[stellation]

I would like to see Thornton given the same chance for the same operation.
Due to the fact he is young and playing so well - certainly should also be given the same chance to play in the Seniors this year.

Good for one is good for the other.

Maclescki is already a guy who has cemented a first team spot whilst Thornton is yet to debut, I think it would be foolish to rush Thornton back.

[Damien]

Here are a couple of articles that give a different side of the story from the optimistic one we were reading yesterday.

I guess there are always going to be differences of opinion within the medical profession on "alternative" treatments to injuries. Let's just hope they made the decision for the right reasons and taking of the potential risks and benefits into consideration, especially the longer term prognosis. He's too young still to risk his long-term AFL career (not to mention longer term implications post footy) for the sake of regaining an extra half-season now.

Club's watch Nick Malceski's new-age knee surgery | Herald Sun

Risky Nick Malceski surgery banned in France | Herald Sun

What annoyed me about both of those stories is that they didn't get any additional information from the surgeon or from the Swans and one even talks about the same operation from the late 80s.

I would be amazed if the Swans would allow such a worse case scenario to exist.

[goswannie14]

We'llhave to wait and see. I went to school with Chris Bradshaw (current Geelong team doctor and former Richmond club doctor), he was a good guy, but very conservative. His comments come as no surprise.

[FootyontheBrain]

This article reminded me of this guy, Willis McGahee. He wrecked his knee in a bowl game in a January Bowl Game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSySFNv9xNE --WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

He had this surgery and was back within a few months and still ended up being the 23rd pick in the NFL.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6359

A few years on now has proven to be a very good running back in the NFL. Most importantly, he's had no other knee injuries since.

Fingers crossed the same holds true for Eski.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

These stories are making me feel very iffy, and I just hope that if it looks like it's not going to work, they can switch to the "standard" op for this injury, and we can see Malceski next season.

He's only 23, so one season wont kill him.

[liz]

Here are a couple of articles that give a different side of the story from the optimistic one we were reading yesterday.

I guess there are always going to be differences of opinion within the medical profession on "alternative" treatments to injuries. Let's just hope they made the decision for the right reasons and taking of the potential risks and benefits into consideration, especially the longer term prognosis. He's too young still to risk his long-term AFL career (not to mention longer term implications post footy) for the sake of regaining an extra half-season now.

Club's watch Nick Malceski's new-age knee surgery | Herald Sun

Risky Nick Malceski surgery banned in France | Herald Sun

[EMJ]

I would like to see Thornton given the same chance for the same operation.
Due to the fact he is young and playing so well - certainly should also be given the same chance to play in the Seniors this year.

Good for one is good for the other.

[Nico]

Max Rooke




I wouldn't have thought it was their responsiblity. Even if they did finance medical research and pay for injuries then the clubs would still be paying for their own research in order to get ahead.

Disagree. They are the governing body, the clubs are supposed to be the stakeholders but as Kennett says they take no notice of the stakeholders. They can't think outside TV rights and NAB Cup rules.

The AFL could be a much, much more professional body but while you have someone who was a failed manager at a dental supplies company at the helm what else do you expect.

[Claret]

Who was it who had radical hammie surgery overseas last year?

Max Rooke

You would think with all their money the AFL would be the leader in all the medical advances to keep players on the park, hence maintain the highest quality of product.

But I wouldn't think AD and AA would have that level of thinking.

I wouldn't have thought it was their responsiblity. Even if they did finance medical research and pay for injuries then the clubs would still be paying for their own research in order to get ahead.

[Nico]

I agree with Liz that we should get Thornton to have the same procedure, even if he has to fly overseas to get it done.

On SEN this morning they rattled off a number of players of bygone decades who were cut short in their prime by ACL's. For all clubs to be able to access this surgey it would mean a lot easier list management and keeping quality players in the game a lot longer.

What amazes me about the AFL is that it is always left up to the clubs to research all the available surgery. Who was it who had radical hammie surgery overseas last year? You would think with all their money the AFL would be the leader in all the medical advances to keep players on the park, hence maintain the highest quality of product.

But I wouldn't think AD and AA would have that level of thinking.

[Jeffers1984]

Probably not a reference to Eduardo...

that was absolutely painful. I hope Eduardo recovers 100% to be back and firing for the gunners.