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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #46
    Originally posted by 2005
    We have seen how Roosy and the leadership group deals with incidents during the week, ask Nick Davis why he hasnt been playing.
    Besides Davis, how often does the leadership group deal with players?
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • WASwansFanatic
      Up the mighty swannies!!!
      • Mar 2003
      • 440

      #47
      Originally posted by 2005
      I agree ROK he should of been dragged no doubt, though saying Roosy is Spineless is utter rubbish in my opinion.
      Did you see Roosy at 1/2 time with Barry ?
      He wasnt wasting space on the ground , we still had to win the game and Hall takes there best defender in Glass so he isnt wasting space at all.
      We have seen how Roosy and the leadership group deals with incidents during the week, ask Nick Davis why he hasnt been playing.
      I thought what Roosy did at half time was absolutely brilliant...... Barry was clearly upset and what Roosy did (to go up and get that close and personal) was sensational.

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      • ROK Lobster
        RWO Life Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 8658

        #48
        Originally posted by NMWBloods
        Besides Davis, how often does the leadership group deal with players?
        Ask Schneider and Dempster.

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        • DST
          The voice of reason!
          • Jan 2003
          • 2705

          #49
          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
          FFS Roos, show some consistency. About as far from a team thing that a player could do, and he was left out there wasting space for the rest of the game. Maybe he didn't see it from the bench, but it was all over the big screen.

          Roos = spineless.
          You would have preferred to have Glass moved to O'Loughlin or ROK and Hunter pushed forward?

          Sometimes people taking up space can be an advatange to the team.

          DST
          "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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          • Matty10
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 1331

            #50
            Hall was clearly affected by his own actions later in the game and should have been dragged (I think as a protection against himself - at one point I thought he might snap again and deck the umpire)

            Not sure when Roos saw the incident though - calling the coach spineless makes little sense.

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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              #51
              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
              FFS Roos, show some consistency. About as far from a team thing that a player could do, and he was left out there wasting space for the rest of the game. Maybe he didn't see it from the bench, but it was all over the big screen.

              Roos = spineless.
              I would of thought the vision on TV, of Roos in the sheds at halftime, in Baza's face, spitting all over him, are not the actions of a spineless coach.
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • TheGrimReaper
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2007
                • 2203

                #52
                Originally posted by ernie koala
                I would of thought the vision on TV, of Roos in the sheds at halftime, in Baza's face, spitting all over him, are not the actions of a spineless coach.
                It's obvious, ROK Lobster had a brain snap, and will not admit it.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9721

                  #53
                  He should have been pulled. No question. No question at all.

                  Great of Roos to give him a spray in the sheds, but if he doesn't feel he can pull someone after they have done something like that just because people will see him give them a dressing down on the sidelines then he needs to move back up to the coaching box.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Matt79
                    Bring it on!
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 3143

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    The crowd struggled too. After the replay was shown the whole stadium went limp, until Goodes' 5 minute burst early in the second.

                    I totally agree ROK. I was pumped and excited about the game and our form up until Hall was a selfish ill-tempered fool. After that I was flat like the rest of the crowd. I commented to my wife straight after a game that it was the flattest I had ever felt singing the club song after a win.

                    Hall's pre-madonna outburst has the potential to derail such a bright start to the season.
                    Swannies for life!

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                    • TheGrimReaper
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2203

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Matt79
                      I totally agree ROK. I was pumped and excited about the game and our form up until Hall was a selfish ill-tempered fool. After that I was flat like the rest of the crowd. I commented to my wife straight after a game that it was the flattest I had ever felt singing the club song after a win.

                      Hall's pre-madonna outburst has the potential to derail such a bright start to the season.
                      I hope you're wrong, about derailing our season.

                      I hope it's a spur on for the rest of the boys, that we can win without Hall, and what a way to test yourself against the best!

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        #56
                        Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
                        It's obvious, ROK Lobster had a brain snap, and will not admit it.
                        I think Roos is spineless. All talk and little action. Loves to say "it's not my fault" and empower players to make the decisions that he does not have the guts to do.

                        He will bully players like Davis and Dempster who are not in the clique but has not got the courage to make a stand when he needs to, when one of the big boys steps out of line.

                        The "I did not see it" bollocks is his way of avoiding dealing with the situation. He needed to show some leadership himself last night and drag the bloke for selfish, stupid play, send a message to the others and to Hall that one player is not about the team. They trot that line out at other times, why not for Barry?

                        It also shows that Mr Cool Paul can't coach in a crisis or when things deviate from the game plan. Hall did not come off until one of the assistants worked out a new forward structure for Roos and put it on the whiteboard...

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                          Not for the whole game. Roos should have got him off. Not even to give him a bake (although it would have been warranted), but to give him some chance to get his head right.
                          ROK, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it (I've only read thus far) ... but Roosey DID give Blind Barry a bake and it was a beauty.

                          When we got back to my place on Sat night, we turned on the TV and caught the end of the telecast.

                          During this they showed a snippet from half-time again. Blind Barry was up against the wall and Roosey was about an inch from his nose letting him have it - quietly. The look on Roosey's face ... dead-set, Blind Barry should be six foot under today. Judging by the look on Blind Barry's face when he was copping it - I reckon he felt like he wished he was already there.

                          I recorded the last half hour - I can burn it to DVD if you want to see.

                          Roosey isn't spineless - it's those quiet ones you have to watch out for!!
                          Last edited by AnnieH; 14 April 2008, 10:51 AM.
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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                            I think Roos is spineless. All talk and little action. Loves to say "it's not my fault" and empower players to make the decisions that he does not have the guts to do.

                            He will bully players like Davis and Dempster who are not in the clique but has not got the courage to make a stand when he needs to, when one of the big boys steps out of line.

                            The "I did not see it" bollocks is his way of avoiding dealing with the situation. He needed to show some leadership himself last night and drag the bloke for selfish, stupid play, send a message to the others and to Hall that one player is not about the team. They trot that line out at other times, why not for Barry?

                            It also shows that Mr Cool Paul can't coach in a crisis or when things deviate from the game plan. Hall did not come off until one of the assistants worked out a new forward structure for Roos and put it on the whiteboard...
                            Complete drivel, except for your sig.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9721

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                              ROK, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it (I've only read thus far) ... but Roosey DID give Blind Barry a bake and it was a beauty.

                              When we got back to my place on Sat night, we turned on the TV and caught the end of the telecast.

                              During this they showed a snippet from half-time again. Blind Barry was up against the wall and Roosey was about an inch from his nose letting him have it - quietly. The look on Roosey's face ... dead-set, Blind Barry should be six foot under today. Judging by the look on Blind Barry's face when he was copping it - I reckon he felt like he wished he was already there.

                              I recorded the last half hour - I can burn it to DVD if you want to see.

                              Roosey isn't spineless - it's those quiet ones you have to watch out for!!
                              Roos said that he was just asking Barry about his hamstring.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • goswannie14
                                Leadership Group
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 11166

                                #60
                                Originally posted by stellation
                                Roos said that he was just asking Barry about his hamstring.
                                I'm surprised that he didn't say "I didn't see it."
                                Does God believe in Atheists?

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