Will Davis be selected for Rd 7 Vs Doggies??

[connolly]

Shame they don't keep stats on never even tried Davis would be league leader, he's less effective than the Port Adelaide runner when we don't have the footy

Don't forget the "@@@@ better pull out I'm about to be bumped" stat. The "fails to put head over the ball" stat would be bradmanesque

[stellation]

Davis is a crap user of the footy as well as being oneof the softest players I have seen in Swans Guernsey

According to Footy Record

Kicking Effectiveness

Davis 56.2%
Bevan 77.1%

He's a shocker, his weekend game was abysmal,and typical of his performances against good sides

Steve Nash turns the ball over a lot, he must suck.

[stellation]

no I am not but at the same time i aint speculating and hating and just being a goose on an online forum because my favorite player doesn't do the things that are asked of him and is treated accordingly

Are you not speculating just as much as anyone else with that comment?

[Triple B]

My statements have been that he has contributed as a useful member of the team in the past three years and the stats support that.

We can argue that fact here until the cows come home, in fact, we all have. The stats you bang on about don't log figures on non-chase, non-1%'s etc and these are the reasons Davis is on the outer with those who matter.

I fail to see how the pro-Davis faction can argue he has been anything else but useless so far this year. Arguing that Bevan, Bolton, Buchanan et al have also had periods of uselessness and retained their position doesn't make it right for Davis to keep his place when he is so obviously totally low on confidence and out of form. Hall's suspension opened the door for him, but it also means it is even more important that Davis is not there because he is giving us NOTHING.

His only saving grace has been that he is such a great, reliable kick for goal. Now even that has deserted him, reasons irrelevant.

He must go. No way is he in our top 22 at this point in time.

[BloodNut]

Are you not speculating just as much as anyone else with that comment?

Come on - you are Nick Davis biggest fan on here and if anything you have formed a little group that is so pro Nick Davis and really anti-roos.

[2005]

Changed my mind on Davo now : Has to play this week.
After he might save us a fine from the AFL for having 19 on the ground.
You cant really count Davo can you ??

[Reggi]

Changed my mind on Davo now : Has to play this week.
After he might save us a fine from the AFL for having 19 on the ground.
You cant really cant Davo can you ??

What because he doesn't count as being a footballer on the field

[swantastic]

Everitt in
Davis out

That's just what I think will happen, not necessarily what I hope happens. We do need Spida back, though.

I hope White gets another chance, too.

Why He did sweet @@@@ all.

[Ludwig]

No - the stats are the reality. Anything else is just your interpretation on things.

Here's another interpretation of things, with a bit of objectivity:

I was watching the Essendon v St Kilda game a couple of weeks ago and noted what a crap game Nathan Lovett-Murray had. He seemed to avoid almost every contest and just floated around hoping something would happen. (Sound Familiar). I was a bit surprised, as I think he is a rather talented player. Looking at his stats for the game, he had 11 disposals and 7 tackles. The tackle count alone would have you think that he was hard at it, but from observations it seemed like a miscount. Sure enough he was dropped to emergency list by Knights, but came in due to a late injury. Had a even worse game against Collingwood.

I don't know the details of that situation, but if team in such a desperate state as Essendon with so many critical injuries are willing to drop a tallish, quick talented player that can play forward and back, mainly from what I can see is lack of effort, then I don't see how Davis can get another game with his performance, which I wouldn't rate any better than Lovett-Murray's. This takes the Paul Roos thing out of the equation. I think Neil Craig, Mathew Knights, and number of other coaches would be even less forgiving than Roos under similar circumstances. I think Davis could get a regular game at Freo where wasted talents seem to go for long sabbaticals.

I am really disappointed that Davis hasn't made the adjustment to the new quicker game, because he is such a talented player and so very much needed at a time when we are down on goal kicking power. If only we could put Davis and Jude together and get a Steve Johnson. As much as I lament Jude's poor kicking, I don't think there is any question as to who would get selection and who would get the axe if it came to that.

I remember a couple of years back when Roos wanted to give Davis more time in the midfield, but that didn't pan out for the obvious reasons. It will be a real pity if Davis can't lift his game, because he should have a few more good years left and is capable of making a very big contribution when he applies himself. And I am sure Paul Roos would love to have Davo's kicking abilities in the team on a regular basis. Certainly Mathew Knights also lamented about dropping Lovett-Murray, but it's hard to know what to do about these sorts of players. When you are asking every team member to lift to make up for some big losses do to injury, it's hard to countenance such poor efforts.

[NMWBloods]

It's nice to see a well-reasoned argument!

[goswannie14]

I haven't seen that done in a Bloods jumper since the early 90's. Disgraceful.

Don't let facts get in the way of your rant. It happened with a few Swans players on Sunday. Have a look at the DVD again, but this time open both eyes.

[goswannie14]

29th eh? wow thats impressive..with his ability and so called talent he should be in the top 10 at least. 29th is nothing to be proud of for such a prodigy.

MOL does more and offers more than what Nick does and Mickey takes the 2nd best defender. I have no complains with Mickey, sure he goes missing but i hardly think he deserves the @@@@ dumped on him from the "Nick Davis Appreciation Club" on here.

Try doing some simple maths. There are 16 teams in the comp. You could reasonably expect that each team would have 2 top goal kickers in the top 32 (16X2). Nick davis at 29 would then be in the Swans top two goal kickers per game for the club for the season. he should be proud of that, wouldn't you be?

[Reggi]

Try doing some simple maths. There are 16 teams in the comp. You could reasonably expect that each team would have 2 top goal kickers in the top 32 (16X2). Nick davis at 29 would then be in the Swans top two goal kickers per game for the club for the season. he should be proud of that, wouldn't you be?

Rubbish

Very few mid sized fulltime forwards exist now

Many have midfielders who push forward, or the reverse. Davis is too soft to play midfield/onball

Clubs like Geelong get a good spread of goals from their midfielders, nominally they play James Kelly in the same position,but he would kick fewer goals than Davis but provide far more value

[BloodNut]

Try doing some simple maths. There are 16 teams in the comp. You could reasonably expect that each team would have 2 top goal kickers in the top 32 (16X2). Nick davis at 29 would then be in the Swans top two goal kickers per game for the club for the season. he should be proud of that, wouldn't you be?

Again more fluff from another Davis lover/Roos hater. Actually it's more rubbish and yeah what reggi said.

No one is against Nick Davis - just a lot of us are sick and tired of waiting for Nick Davis to replicate what he did in 2005 against the cats. We have waited long enough and basically we are fed up with the continual spin thrown around by a few nd many of us can now see what Roos see's. We know what Roos wants out of Nick and we can see that Nick won't be able to deliver.

As i said Nick Davis will be a poster boy for Western Sydney in 2011 and will do enough to drum up a rivalry by coming out and slagging the swans and Roos. Just wait and see.

[goswannie14]

Again more fluff from another Davis lover/Roos hater. Actually it's more rubbish and yeah what reggi said.

Gee diego, you sure know a lot about this forum for someone whio has just joined. You find one post where I said I hated Roos, you won't find one because you are talking out of your arse.

But of course facts aren't what you are best at are they?