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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #31
    Originally posted by Kanga
    Why does MO'L (your stand in ff) lead to the pockets so consistently? I assume the centre corridor is chockers?
    Don't know - he nearly always does that. Sometimes it works because we can centre the ball, but more often than not it doesn't.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • dread and might
      Back, strapped and intact
      • Apr 2004
      • 949

      #32
      If you watch him in the warm-up, he hardly ever practices a shot from anything less than a 45 degree angle.

      Troubling. Also goes to ground too easily which is frustrating considering how good he is at ground level.
      I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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      • #73
        Evil Voice of Reason
        • Aug 2007
        • 198

        #33
        What annoys me most is that we were beaten by a team that I honestly don't think is as good as us. 18.4 or whatever the hell it was was flukey. Unheard of. Seemed like evertime they had a set shot they goaled. Those two spawney goals from the left pocket were right out of their arses. And is it just me or does Brad Johnston have one of the most punchable heads in footy? (right behind Milne and Roughead)

        Once again we've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. We should never have lost to that rabble called St. Kilda or drawn with North. Too little too late again! Thank God we're not playing this weekend. I can have a stress-free couple of days.
        Damn that Sorcerer! Twenty gold pieces and I'm wankered on rohypnol!

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #34
          Originally posted by #73
          And is it just me or does Brad Johnston have one of the most punchable heads in footy?
          I've always admired his ability to get the most out of himself, but yesterday he just grated on me for some reason.

          I haven't seen the replay yet, but were his 2 frees resulting in goals against Mattner both there?? First one he seemed to just feel a hand around his chest very early in the contest and just threw his arms out and backed into Mattner staging for a free. The second one, Mattner seemed to get a bit of ball and barely obstructed Johnson at all, but Johnson gets the free and goals.

          What was the feeling on TV??
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          • #73
            Evil Voice of Reason
            • Aug 2007
            • 198

            #35
            The first free wasn't there. The second one was. It was sloppy from Mattner.
            Damn that Sorcerer! Twenty gold pieces and I'm wankered on rohypnol!

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #36
              Commentators said the first one was clearly a free kick, and umpires do pay that more often these days.

              Second they were less sure about, but given Mattner was not looking at the ball and made front-on contact (regardless of how slight) the commentators said that it should normally be paid.

              I'd generally agree they were both there (but noting that fact that umpiring is totally inconsistent).
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16737

                #37
                Originally posted by Triple B
                I've always admired his ability to get the most out of himself, but yesterday he just grated on me for some reason.

                I haven't seen the replay yet, but were his 2 frees resulting in goals against Mattner both there?? First one he seemed to just feel a hand around his chest very early in the contest and just threw his arms out and backed into Mattner staging for a free. The second one, Mattner seemed to get a bit of ball and barely obstructed Johnson at all, but Johnson gets the free and goals.

                What was the feeling on TV??
                Having posted elsewhere that I thought the umpies were good, your post has reminded me of one decision that sent my blood pressure racing. Was the second free you are referring to for arm chopping? There was one where our defender (could have been Mattner, can't quite remember) seemed to get a clear punch on the ball and tangled arms with the forward after he made contact with the ball. And got penalised.

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #38
                  Originally posted by #73
                  What annoys me most is that we were beaten by a team that I honestly don't think is as good as us. 18.4 or whatever the hell it was was flukey. Unheard of. Seemed like evertime they had a set shot they goaled.
                  It was great kicking - they hardly even looked like missing. That's great football. Not that common, but not unheard of. In the past few years we've kicked 18.4 and 19.5.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • top40
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2007
                    • 933

                    #39
                    Originally posted by #73
                    What annoys me most is that we were beaten by a team that I honestly don't think is as good as us. 18.4 or whatever the hell it was was flukey. Unheard of. Seemed like evertime they had a set shot they goaled. Those two spawney goals from the left pocket were right out of their arses. And is it just me or does Brad Johnston have one of the most punchable heads in footy? (right behind Milne and Roughead)

                    Once again we've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. We should never have lost to that rabble called St. Kilda or drawn with North. Too little too late again! Thank God we're not playing this weekend. I can have a stress-free couple of days.
                    Kicking goals is part of winning. (And I think it might be a pretty important part!) It's a bit like losing a soccer game 3-nil, and complaining that the other side were 'lucky' to get the ball into the net three times. Sorry to say it, but the Bulldogs thoroughly deserved the four points.

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                    • waterfowl
                      Pumping the footy
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 129

                      #40
                      Obviously this kicking for goal is a huge problem. Does anyone know what they do at training - a few kicks to finish off? It's a skill that can be improved - with difficult music performers keep practicing after they can already play a piece well - for when the nerves kick. Maybe they should practice from 60 or 70m out (and blindfolded ) Maybe its a good job for Bazza while he is recovering to hold masterclasses in straight kicking...

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                      • shaun..
                        Stuck in Reserves
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 691

                        #41
                        Originally posted by liz
                        Not sure if you're referring to Mick's first shot or Macca's 3rd - being lazy and not going back and reading through the thread. But the trajectory was almost identical. And then the Dogs had a shot in that exact same spot early in the 2nd quarter, aimed much closer to the left hand post and it sailed through the middle.

                        I don't whether it was more frustrating yesterday watch the Swans miss gettable shots, or watch the Dogs line up knowing with certainty that it was going to be on target.
                        I think McVeigh's was more frustrating especially since he kicked a goal earlier in about the same spot. There was an obvious drift from left to right. And Micky must've known after watching McVeigh's attempts. It's like they don't know where to aim when kicking for goal (and they don't seem to help or notify one another) compared to their Dogs counterparts who kicked truly in similar positions.
                        "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                        • bodgie
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 501

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Kanga
                          Why does MO'L (your stand in ff) lead to the pockets so consistently? I assume the centre corridor is chockers?

                          He bagged three on the weekend, but you need a couple of others doing the same to put some scoreboard pressure on the opposition. Delivery into your fwd line was abysmal against the dogs.....

                          M'O is the one forward who hasn't lost basic confidence. He is the long term forward who has learnt that his spot is deep in the pocket - keep out of Halls way. O'Keefe and Davis have been lost along the way. In an era when players are supposed to be multi-skilled and when our forward line was supposed to be our stand out strength we have lost our way. Surely the coaches must take responsibility. It was kinda telling to see a forward line of Playfair, Moore and M'O

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                          • Kanga
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 274

                            #43
                            Originally posted by bodgie
                            M'O is the one forward who hasn't lost basic confidence. He is the long term forward who has learnt that his spot is deep in the pocket - keep out of Halls way. O'Keefe and Davis have been lost along the way. In an era when players are supposed to be multi-skilled and when our forward line was supposed to be our stand out strength we have lost our way. Surely the coaches must take responsibility. It was kinda telling to see a forward line of Playfair, Moore and M'O
                            In Hall's absence then the rest of them are not standing up and getting a bag of marks/goals. Interesting as when your midfield runs with the ball they look very impressive, but their finishing lets them down. Too often it is a kick down the line or on the flank rather than into the corridor.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16737

                              #44
                              I was just searching for something completely unrelated and stumbled across this from last year. Might provide some amusement (and a reminder that the current woes are nothing new).

                              The Sydney Morning Herald Blogs: Sport

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                              • RogueSwan
                                McVeigh for Brownlow
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4602

                                #45
                                It makes me angry.
                                How many years ago was it that we were routinely being praised for accuracy? Probably 2003-04 era. As a team we were well up over 60%! Hall, Davis and co. could shoot a dick off a bee at 50m.
                                Or is that just me wearing the "blood-coloured' glasses again?
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