I was a failed Blood Brother: Inside the Swans Inner Circle

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  • Xie Shan
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2929

    #31
    Originally posted by stellation
    I think it's a reasonable thing to ponder.
    I think so too, irrespective of whether you were being an arse or not

    Every club will have players that don't work out for whatever reason, whether it's attitude problems, a lack of compatibility with the current coach's game plan, or simply that they couldn't take their game to the next level.

    You could make a case for all of the players mentioned in this thread that they were hard done by, I didn't see much of Spriggs but from all reports in 2005 he'd improved his disposal sufficiently to warrant at least getting a couple more games in the seniors, otherwise it's hard to tell without being inside the inner sanctum. Some of it is timing - it's possible that one coach might see something in a particular player that another coach wouldn't, a lot depends on the make-up of the current squad. I was sad to see Schneider go but we probably had too many of his type of player, and at least he had the opportunity to play for another club (and do well), as he does have talent.

    I think barry's point (that none of the players mentioned in the OP were picked up by other AFL clubs) is a good one, and suggests that the Swans have generally gotten it right, but they are not perfect.

    Re Davis, once again we can only speculate on why exactly he has become a 'failed Blood brother' -- he admitted himself in an article a couple of seasons ago that he 'only just' fit in -- and it's a fair point that we just didn't see enough of what he could do on a consistent basis, but I don't think it's unreasonable for Roos and the Swans' coaching staff to share at least some of the blame for not getting the most out of him.

    Was Nick hard done by? Probably a little, I think maybe he suffered a bit from the expectation that comes with being one of the more naturally gifted players in a side better known for being hard-working than talented, personally I got the feeling watching him play that I liked what I saw, just didn't see enough of it. (Except for one particular quarter of course!! ) I hope he gets an opportunity at another club. But I'm certainly sad to see him go.
    Last edited by Xie Shan; 12 October 2008, 07:56 PM.

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #32
      Originally posted by barry
      None of the players in the OP have been picked up by other clubs, so that tells me the swans made the right decisions.

      But, isnt it weird that we now have 2 senior forwards ostracized (Hall and Davis). Hopefully MOL doesnt repeat his Adelaide escapades from years ago, or we wont have a forward line at all.
      Blind Barry isn't ostracized any more.
      He's back in.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9720

        #33
        The summer's gone and all the roses falling.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #34
          Originally posted by stellation
          The summer's gone and all the roses falling.
          The word "rabble" springs to mind.

          The question is, was it all worth it?

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9720

            #35
            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
            The question is, was it all worth it?
            A 1 in 75 success rate is pretty hard to argue with.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • Bas
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4457

              #36
              Originally posted by stellation
              A 1 in 75 success rate is pretty hard to argue with.
              No no no you have it wrong. We have success every year because we finish in the top 8!
              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9720

                #37
                Originally posted by Bas
                No no no you have it wrong. We have success every year because we finish in the top 8!
                Look, it's a tough market in Sydney
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9720

                  #38
                  The publishers will be knocking the door down soon, who wants to jump in as a co-author so we can split the load?
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • connolly
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2461

                    #39
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    The publishers will be knocking the door down soon, who wants to jump in as a co-author so we can split the load?
                    Me? I'll write the one paragraph thats not about Davo.
                    Bevo bandwagon driver

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9720

                      #40
                      Originally posted by connolly
                      Me? I'll write the one paragraph thats not about Davo.
                      Okay, but in that case you're only getting 1/20th of the royalties!
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                        The word "rabble" springs to mind.

                        The question is, was it all worth it?
                        Rabble

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                        • DST
                          The voice of reason!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2705

                          #42
                          This pile of stinking horse manure of a thread is back again..............

                          DST
                          "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                          • Lohengrin
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 641

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DST
                            This pile of stinking horse manure of a thread is back again..............

                            DST
                            Get off your high horse.

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                            • DST
                              The voice of reason!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2705

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Lohengrin
                              Get off your high horse.
                              Very funny or did read into that too much?

                              DST
                              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                              • Lohengrin
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 641

                                #45
                                It seemed appropriate!

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