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  • Mr Magoo
    Senior Player
    • May 2008
    • 1255

    #16
    While it is always exciting to have new players in the team we cant expect these youngs guys to save our season or the game. If he even gets fifty percent of the ball buchanan gets then he will have done an excellent job.

    Its like Nick Smith, the guy gets two games (hawks and geelong if i recall) and people start saying that AFL level is a bit beyond him because he only gets a few stats. You cannot expect judd like performances from these young guys in their first few games of AFL. Give him half a season and then we can make start to make a judgement.

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    • Industrial Fan
      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
      • Aug 2006
      • 3317

      #17
      Originally posted by Triple B
      You'll get a beautiful mover. He has a real long stride and moves across the ground like a panther. I know I've seen similar type players, but struggling to think of one at the minute, maybe Jared Brennan (in movement, not size) but somebody will think of a good one.
      I'm thinking Daniel Wells?
      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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      • Lucky Knickers
        Fandom of Fabulousness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4220

        #18
        Likening him to Brennan and Wells doesn't give me much confidence.
        Can we please liken him to a mini-Goodes?

        All that aside, congrats to another debutante in the red and white. Give it a good crack and have a good time.

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #19
          Originally posted by Industrial Fan
          I'm thinking Daniel Wells?
          YES, good one.
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            #20
            Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
            Likening him to Brennan and Wells doesn't give me much confidence.....
            I was talking exclusively about the way he moves, his gait.
            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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            • Mr Magoo
              Senior Player
              • May 2008
              • 1255

              #21
              Wells would be a great acquisition for us.

              For cross code watchers Greg Inglis from melbourne storm also runs in similar way.

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              • Thunder Shaker
                Aut vincere aut mori
                • Apr 2004
                • 4159

                #22
                Originally posted by Triple B
                I was talking exclusively about the way he moves, his gait.
                Next you'll be discussing his breeding and booking him in to a maiden handicap at Randwick.
                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                • Bear
                  Best and Fairest
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1022

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dread and might
                  Sooooo, let me get this straight.
                  1. He moves beautifully. What does that mean? I take it, that doesn't mean quick...

                  2. He never shirks a contest, but also doesn't get his own ball

                  3. His disposal is suspect.

                  Doesn't sound great at AFL level if you ask me.
                  Sorry, not trying to be overly negative, and I haven't seen him play, but especially the last point gives me cause for concern. Turnovers are so costly against the top teams.
                  Interesting that you pick out all the negatives - i guess that's symptomatic of society as a whole these days, and certainly reflects a lot of the stuff on RWO.

                  Anyway...

                  He sounds like a goalsneak to me with excellent forward defensive skills.

                  How about this from the description on the Swans official site (some positives if you look closely - but i bolded just in case) ...

                  Recruited from Calder Cannons, the winger/small forward has great ball-winning ability along with good disposal skills. He also has good speed and skills, reads the play very well and has impressive evasive flair - rarely getting caught. In round 18 of the 2006 TAC Cup he amassed 40-plus possessions on the way to winning more contested ball in the forward-50 than any other player in the under-18 competition - and ranked second in the TAC competition for tackles. He was selected at number 30 overall in the 2006 rookie draft. Patella tendonitis kept him in rehab since arriving at the Swans but is due to join the main group in early March.
                  Previously rookie listed with Sydney. A lightly framed midfielder/forward from Calder Cannons. Quick and dangerous near goal
                  "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                  Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    #24
                    That makes him sound awesome Bear, hope he is half as good as that.
                    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4159

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Triple B
                      Unfortunately, you WON'T get pinpoint passes.
                      Put him on a half-forward flank and have him ping at the goals. You don't need to be pinpoint accurate when pinging at the goals, just get it between the big sticks.
                      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                      • satchmopugdog
                        Bandicoots ears
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3691

                        #26
                        My very, very, first fleeting impression(you know that one split second you get of someone) was Mickey O for Matt O'Dwyer and Diesel Williams for Bird. Both big boots to fill, I know,but there was just that something in both of them that made me think "ooooooh..I like what I see!"

                        I can also remember thinking that Heath?????(the father/son selection that was always injured) marked like Dunkley in my first fleeting impression, but that never came to fruition.
                        "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16737

                          #27
                          Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                          I can also remember thinking that Heath?????(the father/son selection that was always injured) marked like Dunkley in my first fleeting impression, but that never came to fruition.
                          James. How can you forget his name?!! He's still one of the runners.

                          Was a very talented player. For all the bemoaning we've done over the years over short players pinch hitting above their height, in the late 1990s we recruited three talls who could seriously play and all had absolute rotten luck with injury. I remember Heath's first game and he did indeed take several Dunkleyesque marks.

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                          • dread and might
                            Back, strapped and intact
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 949

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bear
                            Interesting that you pick out all the negatives - i guess that's symptomatic of society as a whole these days, and certainly reflects a lot of the stuff on RWO.

                            Anyway...

                            He sounds like a goalsneak to me with excellent forward defensive skills.

                            How about this from the description on the Swans official site (some positives if you look closely - but i bolded just in case) ...

                            Recruited from Calder Cannons, the winger/small forward has great ball-winning ability along with good disposal skills. He also has good speed and skills, reads the play very well and has impressive evasive flair - rarely getting caught. In round 18 of the 2006 TAC Cup he amassed 40-plus possessions on the way to winning more contested ball in the forward-50 than any other player in the under-18 competition - and ranked second in the TAC competition for tackles. He was selected at number 30 overall in the 2006 rookie draft. Patella tendonitis kept him in rehab since arriving at the Swans but is due to join the main group in early March.
                            Previously rookie listed with Sydney. A lightly framed midfielder/forward from Calder Cannons. Quick and dangerous near goal
                            Now that actually makes him sound pretty promising.

                            My point was that the OP didn't really make him sound great at all, "a beautiful mover" doesn't instantly make me think "pace", and the rest of the description made him sound like a beautifully moving Jude Bolton without the hardness....

                            Good luck to the young fella
                            I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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                            • pig@fullforward
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 87

                              #29
                              didn't see the game due to work commitments,
                              how did the boy go, i notice that he only had a few touches was that due to reduced game time or was he not trying hard enough etc?

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                              • swan63
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pig@fullforward
                                didn't see the game due to work commitments,
                                how did the boy go, i notice that he only had a few touches was that due to reduced game time or was he not trying hard enough etc?
                                was nervous and unsure of where to run and what to do - has a lot to learn

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