153 games on, was / is Rocket a better coach?

[Rod_]

Seems that the vote is Roooooos

2nd part of the question could have been.

If we continue to slide next year how long before someone calls for his neck?

I would dare to say we are developing a team of good kids and the legacy of trading off the middle aged group over the past 2 years is being realised.

If we discard all the players that we have collectively bagged over the past few months, we have little or no mid aged group players to lead for the next 5 + years.

I hope the succession planning works for generation next ....

Rod_

[Donners]

History may well show Eade to have been a superior recruiter - certainly in the draft.

[Plugger46]

Yep. Paul Williams was the best, particularly better than Greg Williams. More pace and better kick. Better kick and more skillful than Kelly. Healy was an outside receiver in a team of expensive mercenaries. If you won't accept he was the best midfielder since Skilton would you agree he was the best rover (to use the old fashion term)?

I didn't see enough of Healy but Paul Williams was nowhere near the footballer Kelly or Diesel were.

[connolly]

I didn't see enough of Healy but Paul Williams was nowhere near the footballer Kelly or Diesel were.

Footballer? Kelly's courage, inspirational acts, tackling and his strength were superior. But Willo was a better kick (literally by a mile), better first touch player and much quicker. As for Greg Williams, possibly the only midfielder to be slower than Benny Mathews, he had great hands and was strong in the packs and a better hand ball. Willo would kill him for pace and kicking. No one, and i repeat no one broke the lines and straightened up our run like Paul Williams. Yep the best in terms of skill, run and creativity since the great Skilts. (Won't even mention Healy as both of us probably lead busy lives and life is too short etc, etc.)

[BSA5]

This, to me, is a worry. To have an outgoing coach dictate who will replace him, in this case his deputy, makes no sense. If we want to continue down the same line then why replace Roos at all? Any new coach should not be a Roos deputy, it should be some one coming in fresh, hopefully with new ideas. Given Horses' major role over the last few years, it would be same old same old to the players ears...ie stale and on the nose.

I don't disagree with you. But then, if Roos leaves, it will be because he no longer wants to coach. In which case it isn't a question of whether or not we want to travel down the same line. Maybe the club does want to travel down the same line, but as Roos won't be available, they want the next best thing in Longmire.

[connolly]

I don't disagree with you. But then, if Roos leaves, it will be because he no longer wants to coach. In which case it isn't a question of whether or not we want to travel down the same line. Maybe the club does want to travel down the same line, but as Roos won't be available, they want the next best thing in Longmire.

We need a spark. Something inspirational. Stewie Maxfield must come under consideration if he wants it. A Kevin Sheedy with a brain.

[Lohengrin]

Yep. Paul Williams was the best, particularly better than Greg Williams. More pace and better kick. Better kick and more skillful than Kelly. Healy was an outside receiver in a team of expensive mercenaries. If you won't accept he was the best midfielder since Skilton would you agree he was the best rover (to use the old fashion term)?

Your easy dismissal of champion players, Brownlow medallists and TotC members explains a lot about your views of Bevan as a great player.

[connolly]

Your easy dismissal of champion players, Brownlow medallists and TotC members explains a lot about your views of Bevan as a great player.

Didn't dismiss anyone, except Healy and his ego can look after itself. Was simply making a comparison which is by definition subjective. As for the TotC's i have compassion for orphans, starving millions in Africa and Colleen the whale. But even this generous well of human kindness has a limit to the depths that it can plumb.

[2005]

Roos delivered us a premiership. Case closed.

The answer is there.

[Dogzbody]

RROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSS SSSSSSSSS

Has done what no other could do for us, understand his group and make a plan to win a GF

[DST]

Ron Barassi was Better than both sorry to say ,in my opinion.

I say if Barassi was given the 1 more year deal he wanted, Swannies would've won the 1996 Gran Final.

As far as im concerned Eade only got to the 96 Gran Final on the Back of Barassi hard work.

After all Barassi brought Swannies back from the Wooden Spoon Days.

I say bring back Barassi

Don't get me wrong Barassi was great, but he was nothing more than a stop gap measure to bring a club back for the dead and give it some purpose and meaning.

That was what he did (very well) and then thankfully he handed over the reigns to someone who could take us forward.

As for the Eade vs Roos, both are astute and tactically sound but Roos get's my vote due to him being able to get the absolute best out of his players and for his habit for remaining in control while the whole world around him is turning pear shape.

I am not sure we would have won the GF in 2005 if we had Eade in the box.

DST

[Lohengrin]

By the way it is really incredible that this thread should become another Davo strokefest. Mon dieu!

And yet some of the same people who are sick of what Davis did three years ago say that Roos is a better coach because of what he did three years ago, yet the two are inextricably linked.

[Legs Akimbo]

It's a complicated question.

Roos has achieved more, but Eade built the list that gave Roos the Premiership. He's doing something similar at Footscray. Fine connossieur of sausages is Rod Eade and a great technician of the game.

Roos is a greater motivator of men, but ironically, his steadfast faith in his players and method, which proved the decisive factors in our premiership, is proving to be an achilles heel.

To prove his metal, Roos now has to show he can pick, nurture and develop a new generation of players. As I have said in other posts, I think some of his ideas on the draft are just plain wrong and I think he may fail because he is overly risk averse. He over values the work ethic and under values pure talent.