Swans offer Kerr 5 years

[connolly]

I still have trouble trying to reconcile Connolly's stand that someone who bashes and stalks his ex girlfriend is OK, while somebody else who uses recreational drugs isn't

And the undertones in Connolly's threads regarding date rape are mischevious at best as there has never been any allegations regarding this. In fact the tapes from 4 corners recorded Kerr saying something along the lines of "I couldn't even remember my own name" which would insinuate that the drugs were used by Kerr for recreational purposes

There are a few flaws in your argument to be kind.
1. The issue isn't about whats OK (whatever that means - i assume that is a moral position) but what affects the integrity of sport. Use of drugs by sports people destroys the integrity of fair and equal competition.
2. The dichotomy between performance enhancing and so-called recreational drugs (they are illegal) is false. Many "recreational drugs"enhance performance.
3. Ketamine in low dosages gives an energy rush which is certainly performance enhancing.
4. You have a naive belief that one conversation on a police tape should be believed as the truth of the matter in regard to Kerr's involvement with drugs. Here's a flash drug abusers often lie, even on the telephone.
5. Ketamine is a particularly nasty drug used for criminal purposes. Anyone in possession of it should come under scrutiny in regard to its potential. Here's another flash - Ketamine can be used for multiple purposes by the individual user. Anyone who has been in possession of Ketamine FOR WHATEVER REASON is unfit to play with the Bloods unless they can demonstrate REMORSE AND REHABILITATION. Where is the evidence that Kerr has expressed and demonstrated either?
6. The bare minimum on this site is that you at least read the posts. Not only have i not said that is OK to bash women. I said the exact opposite. It is despicable and cowardly. You owe me an apology.

[connolly]

Hahaha ok, I'm a raver who staggered into the discussion, that's a mature position to take. I've actually been reading it for quite some time but haven't bothered to comment until now. I've heard of bodybuilders using GHB to aid in higher production of GABA during sleep, but not ketamine, and I'm still struggling to understand exactly why bodybuilders would use ketamine, as it can actually cause degeneration of the muscles. And I'll take your word regarding the "decent nurse", but I'll stick to my own beliefs regarding the issue.

All you do is rattle on about how Kerr will come and poison the club with his off field behaviour, well let me tell you that in June last year Adam Schneider and Adam Goodes were in a club that I often work at at 4 30 am on a Monday morning the same weekend as the loss to Collingwood. I'm not accusing them of taking anything, but the way I look at it is they may be athletes, but who cares what they get up to in the spare time? As long as they go out there and win a game of football that is the important thing, and that is something that Kerr would definitely go a long way towards helping the swans achieve.

Son don't take anything but have a good lie down. Things should be clearer in the morning. Your amoral position basically means that footballers can associate with crims, lie about their associations, commit crimes and we just cheer them on. Apart from anything else it would leave the club bereft of community support, sponsors and a future. But a following of gel and air headed wankers who basically dont give a stuff about the well being of the players, kids or society would probably turn up.

[CureTheSane]

There are a few flaws in your argument to be kind.
1. The issue isn't about whats OK (whatever that means - i assume that is a moral position) but what affects the integrity of sport. Use of drugs by sports people destroys the integrity of fair and equal competition.
2. The dichotomy between performance enhancing and so-called recreational drugs (they are illegal) is false. Many "recreational drugs"enhance performance.
3. Ketamine in low dosages gives an energy rush which is certainly performance enhancing.
4. You have a naive belief that one conversation on a police tape should be believed as the truth of the matter in regard to Kerr's involvement with drugs. Here's a flash drug abusers often lie, even on the telephone.
5. Ketamine is a particularly nasty drug used for criminal purposes. Anyone in possession of it should come under scrutiny in regard to its potential. Here's another flash - Ketamine can be used for multiple purposes by the individual user. Anyone who has been in possession of Ketamine FOR WHATEVER REASON is unfit to play with the Bloods unless they can demonstrate REMORSE AND REHABILITATION. Where is the evidence that Kerr has expressed and demonstrated either?
6. The bare minimum on this site is that you at least read the posts. Not only have i not said that is OK to bash women. I said the exact opposite. It is despicable and cowardly. You owe me an apology.

1. You 2. The part that allows one to change gears in a manual car. 3. Straws



Give it up

[Jeffers1984]

Kerr is on Channel 7 now..

[2005]

I was one that really wanted Daniel Kerr as the footballer.

In saying that ,we simply dont have the bargaining power to get him .

Watching him in that interview though yesterday , though convinced me he
would be a problem that we dont need at our club.

[Mattyt]

Son don't take anything but have a good lie down. Things should be clearer in the morning. Your amoral position basically means that footballers can associate with crims, lie about their associations, commit crimes and we just cheer them on. Apart from anything else it would leave the club bereft of community support, sponsors and a future. But a following of gel and air headed wankers who basically dont give a stuff about the well being of the players, kids or society would probably turn up.

To be honest mate, if you're relying on footballers as a central role model in your life, or as an example that you would like your kids to follow, then sorry, but you really need to get a life.

[caj23]

There are a few flaws in your argument to be kind.
1. The issue isn't about whats OK (whatever that means - i assume that is a moral position) but what affects the integrity of sport. Use of drugs by sports people destroys the integrity of fair and equal competition.
2. The dichotomy between performance enhancing and so-called recreational drugs (they are illegal) is false. Many "recreational drugs"enhance performance.
3. Ketamine in low dosages gives an energy rush which is certainly performance enhancing.
4. You have a naive belief that one conversation on a police tape should be believed as the truth of the matter in regard to Kerr's involvement with drugs. Here's a flash drug abusers often lie, even on the telephone.
5. Ketamine is a particularly nasty drug used for criminal purposes. Anyone in possession of it should come under scrutiny in regard to its potential. Here's another flash - Ketamine can be used for multiple purposes by the individual user. Anyone who has been in possession of Ketamine FOR WHATEVER REASON is unfit to play with the Bloods unless they can demonstrate REMORSE AND REHABILITATION. Where is the evidence that Kerr has expressed and demonstrated either?
6. The bare minimum on this site is that you at least read the posts. Not only have i not said that is OK to bash women. I said the exact opposite. It is despicable and cowardly. You owe me an apology.

huh

[DeadlyAkkuret]

huh

End thread.

[Guzzitza]

There are a few flaws in your argument to be kind.
1. The issue isn't about whats OK (whatever that means - i assume that is a moral position) but what affects the integrity of sport. Use of drugs by sports people destroys the integrity of fair and equal competition.
2. The dichotomy between performance enhancing and so-called recreational drugs (they are illegal) is false. Many "recreational drugs"enhance performance.
3. Ketamine in low dosages gives an energy rush which is certainly performance enhancing.
4. You have a naive belief that one conversation on a police tape should be believed as the truth of the matter in regard to Kerr's involvement with drugs. Here's a flash drug abusers often lie, even on the telephone.
5. Ketamine is a particularly nasty drug used for criminal purposes. Anyone in possession of it should come under scrutiny in regard to its potential. Here's another flash - Ketamine can be used for multiple purposes by the individual user. Anyone who has been in possession of Ketamine FOR WHATEVER REASON is unfit to play with the Bloods unless they can demonstrate REMORSE AND REHABILITATION. Where is the evidence that Kerr has expressed and demonstrated either?
6. The bare minimum on this site is that you at least read the posts. Not only have i not said that is OK to bash women. I said the exact opposite. It is despicable and cowardly. You owe me an apology.

2. They may enhance performance, in the case of Ketmaine this is highly unlikely
3. Ketamine isnt a stimulant. So that is just false and shows you have NFI what your talking about.
4. You are also naive in believing that because there is no tape, no Swan has ever been involved with such things.
5. Rehabilitation in the fact that he hasnt had a positive drugs test after coming under extreme scrutiny over the last year perhaps? No other off-field incidents perhaps?
6. No apology is needed. You are not being accused of saying it is ok to bash women, just that if you had to choose you'd rather have a wife beater than a young guy who has been caught using drugs.

Oh, and something that really is annoying me, its hypocrisy, not hypocracy. Hypocracy is the term used for a government in which the politicians are liars.

[Xie Shan]

Hypocracy is the term used for a government in which the politicians are liars.

I like that!

[cruiser]

3. Ketamine in low dosages gives an energy rush which is certainly performance enhancing.
4. You have a naive belief that one conversation on a police tape should be believed as the truth of the matter in regard to Kerr's involvement with drugs. Here's a flash drug abusers often lie, even on the telephone.
5. Ketamine is a particularly nasty drug used for criminal purposes. Anyone in possession of it should come under scrutiny in regard to its potential. Here's another flash - Ketamine can be used for multiple purposes by the individual user. Anyone who has been in possession of Ketamine FOR WHATEVER REASON is unfit to play with the Bloods unless they can demonstrate REMORSE AND REHABILITATION. Where is the evidence that Kerr has expressed and demonstrated either?

You have obviously never used ketamine and you demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about in regard to this drug. Your statements about people who use drugs and ketamine are absurdly naive and ignorant.

[Mattyt]

Watch out mate, you will now be labelled as a raver who raved onto the message board and then started raving on a topic that you have know idea about!

[dread and might]

Reading this thread I think I want some ketamine

[Mattyt]

The thread might actually start to make more sense if you did

[dread and might]

Got Kerr's mobile?