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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #61
    Thanks for the updates Ugg et al.

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    • robbieando
      The King
      • Jan 2003
      • 2750

      #62
      Originally posted by sharp9
      N/A always means not available or Not Applicable

      My guess is "not Available" ...ie big, big trouble at AFL as someone mislays Sydney's Priority picks and doesn't remove Klemke and Bruest from the draft.
      If this was the case (and I doubt that it was because the Swans would of brought the matter to a head the second Bruest was drafted if we had proteched him and if not then the second Klemke and then handled and Haw and Ess made to pick again) then that has a major knock effect for the entire for the Rookie Draft. We Pre Select any NSW Rookies and if they don't get passed on and it get discovered "after" the event then its not like the AFL can go back to where they made the mistake and start from that point. Hence why I doubt a mistake took place at all and I believe we just didn't select any NSW Rookies this year for whatever reason the club has in mind.

      Bruest I'm not worry about because midfielders are midfielder and we have plenty of them, but Klemke was a defender and thats an area we have a lack of depth in going forward into the future.

      Oh well why bitch and moan now, the rookie draft is done. Our List for 2009 is locked and we can't go back and change it. People this is your 2009 Sydney Swans......
      Once was, now elsewhere

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      • sharp9
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2508

        #63
        But that's not it. We have 3 local rookies spots available. If we didn't want to use them, then the draft wopuld have said PASS noy N/A.

        Someone's email has gone missing, I reckon.
        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          #64
          I rang the Swans and they confirmed the disappointing news that the N/A should have read PASS.

          So either the Swans don't rate Klemke and Breust or they said no.

          Sheesh 2008 has been disappointing draft/trade all round, except for our two top picks.
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15976

            #65
            Originally posted by sharp9
            But that's not it. We have 3 local rookies spots available. If we didn't want to use them, then the draft wopuld have said PASS noy N/A.

            Someone's email has gone missing, I reckon.
            Given that the priority selections were done before the rookie draft started, this is a highly unlikely scenario. Pyke's selection as a 'normal' rookie rather than an international one only adds credence to this situation.

            It may have been salary cap issues, it may have been the fact we are limited by how many listed players we can play in our reserves, but the fact is we have chosen not to take those 3 extra rookie spots.
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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16786

              #66
              Maybe this is the cuts in the football department being seen. They may have decided it is easier to cut out on developing local kids than cut back on medical programmes.

              Huge, huge shame for NSW kids who don't get much of a look-in outside the scholarship scheme. It is great that the likes of Klemke and Bruest get their chance elsewhere but I reckon the Swans have some moral obligation to put at least a year into some local lads.

              Also hugely disappointed that Bruce doesn't get another go. I thought he was terrific this year.

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              • caj23
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 2462

                #67
                Great - so we have a free hit at a couple of NSW youngsters who were good enough to be selected by other teams and pass up the opportunity to get some more new talent in before the Gold Coast saps the draft pool.

                Instead we have 2 blokes on our rooke list who have never played AFL before (no disrespect to Pyke and Coney but they are higher risk prospects)

                If finances were an issue than perhaps a few of our highly paid underperformers could have had their contracts re-negotiated

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                • 2005
                  : IN THE OUTER :
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 604

                  #68
                  Cant believe we didnt take Klemke.
                  Watched him last week down at Richmond and he looks ready , big strapping kid who looks a natural born leader and looked comfortable with the Tigers at training and now has gone to Essendon .Think it will be a great get for them, as for going to Richmond it would of wrecked his career being the one they took him instead of Cousins . Imagine the Tiger faithful.
                  Has done a fair chunk of Richmonds Pre Season and we let him slip instead we go Coney and Pyke who both will never probably in all reality play the game at the highest level .Worrying trend we seem to be heading down
                  Est 1874
                  SMFC
                  09.18.33.2005

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                  • TheGong
                    Pushing for Selection
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 58

                    #69
                    We resign Leo Barry for an additional year which would have cost about the same as the four rookies we passed on. The club does test your faith in their list management.

                    The focus always seems short term.

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                    • SimonH
                      Salt future's rising
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 1647

                      #70
                      There's a simple one-word response to this: pathetic.

                      Either the other clubs vastly overrate NSW players (which would be a huge change of pace for them), we are utterly unable to persuade anyone to accept a local rookie listing with us, or we're nearly broke (which doesn't really gel with recruiting Canadians from France and sending blokes to Germany for surgery). Maybe there's a fourth possibility: the Swans are selfish and myopic when it comes to developing the game in NSW/ACT.

                      This article pushes the boundaries for disingenuousness, even by the standards of official club articles. It implies that we didn't have any picks other than those we used.

                      I've got an idea: cleaning out the position of "manager of player acquisition" should free up plenty enough money to give some local kids a decent go.

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        #71
                        From a lot of the reaction you would think that we missed out on drafting the messiah or something. There will always be a few handy players with potential that miss out on being drafted. I agree its disappointing that we missed out on a few NSW talents but this is a business. There's too much whingeing on this site for my liking at the moment.

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                        • Legs Akimbo
                          Grand Poobah
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 2809

                          #72
                          Originally posted by jono2707
                          From a lot of the reaction you would think that we missed out on drafting the messiah or something. There will always be a few handy players with potential that miss out on being drafted. I agree its disappointing that we missed out on a few NSW talents but this is a business. There's too much whingeing on this site for my liking at the moment.
                          I think you just whinged about people whinging.
                          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                          • satchmopugdog
                            Bandicoots ears
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3691

                            #73
                            List is complete...excellent now I can spend happy hours analysing the names and birthdates of all the players on all the lists...fun times.
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                            • alison.z
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 988

                              #74
                              Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                              List is complete...excellent now I can spend happy hours analysing the names and birthdates of all the players on all the lists...fun times.
                              i want all the new players' guernsey numbers for analysis!!

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                              • Go Swannies
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 5697

                                #75
                                Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                                List is complete...excellent now I can spend happy hours analysing the names and birthdates of all the players on all the lists...fun times.
                                Do you need goat entrails or eye of newt for this assignment?

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