Opposition hatred of Goodes

[jdow]

I will also add to this... dont know how many people here were listening to the game on triple MMM whilst at the game, I was and what I did find upsetting was comments they made about Goodes. Someone would say half way through the second quarter that Goodes had 6 possessions up until then, and that moron Hamish Macintosh would say something like..."that guarantees him 3 votes in the brownlow" and have a chuckle. Honestly, they must have made at least 5 comments about Goodes and the him winning the brownlow based on his performance in Saturday night's game. I can except such stupidity from opposition supporters, but not radio/tv commentators.

In all fairness to Macintosh it did probably get him atleast 2 votes

[jdow]

[QUOTE=Mr Magoo;430874]Thats a bit strong . He didnt exactly blindly poleaxe those guys , kick them, spit in their faces, squirrely grip or any such things that I would describe as dog acts.

and if it was one of our boys recieving cheap shots? at the end of the day who can blame any surpporter other than a Sydney surpporter for disliking him, I know I have lost alot of respect for him, I will surpport him while in the red and white but will also think of him as a bit of a sniper.

[laughingnome]

Dont forget the players probably hear just a whirlwind of noise on the field not each personal comment.

I wouldn't know about that. Sitting on the fence, especially near the Swans Bench, gives me and my compadres a great chance to yell something audible to the players when they come off and walk with the physio or go for a run to keep warm.

Then there are the times the oppostion come near and you can occassionally let loose with some witty barb. Good for boundary throw-ins. They mihgt not hear you all the time, but they certainly will occassionally.

I remember a story Tim Watson was telling about his comeback game in 1993. He was understandably nervous about his return until he was warming up in the pocket and he heard someone shout "Get out of here Watson, you're too b----y old for this!". He reckons he was fine after that.

And then there's the lovable boundary umpires. For years we had a boundary umpire called Ashley at the SCG, and one day when we were getting flogged we decided to start heckling him to keep amused. Over the years it turned into a sort of pseudo-cheer squad to the point where he'd smile and wave when he went past before the game. Don't know what happened to him though, he's not been around for a while.

[liz]

and if it was one of our boys recieving cheap shots? at the end of the day who can blame any surpporter other than a Sydney surpporter for disliking him, I know I have lost alot of respect for him, I will surpport him while in the red and white but will also think of him as a bit of a sniper.

You mean like deliberately kneeling on the face of a midfielder who is already on the ground, held in a tackle? Just one recent incident far more "deliberate" and unsavoury than anything I can recall Goodes doing.

The only real "cheap shot" was the cannon into the back of Godfrey. Yes, it didn't look good, was unneccessary but was never going to cause any injury, unlike a lot of other incidents that get talked about far less. And no, he didn't "get off" that one either. He got a suspended sentence.

The one he did get very lightly treated on was a dangerous "hip and shoulder" to Adam Selwood. Find it very hard to label it as a "dog act" as it was in the play and - I am sure - unpremeditated. But that is the only one.

The incident he was finally suspended for was as trivial as anything and had it been anyone other than Goodes, after the previous controversy over the Selwood incident) it probably wouldn't even have been cited. Certainly nothing like a "dog act".

So that is three incidents. Three in over 200 games of football. Only one of which had the potential to cause some injury (but didn't) and only one of which was off-the-ball.

No longer a spotless record but one that pales into insignificance compared to a number of players currently playing (including about half the Hawthorn team). Certainly not a record that warrants the tag of "sniper".

[jdow]

No longer a spotless record but one that pales into insignificance compared to a number of players currently playing (including about half the Hawthorn team). Certainly not a record that warrants the tag of "sniper".

I did'nt say he was Hansolo did I! the defense that "everyone else dose it" is not good enough for school children nor is it good enough for a AFL footballer. You can run around comparing him to half of the Hawthorn team if it makes you feel better and claim theres other players worse somehow that makes it alright but a sniper, is a sniper, is a sniper and he may not of been one before last year but he has a proven himself to be one to date!

[Mr Magoo]

Point is that three reports in 200 games doesnt exactly put him in the class of dirty player who gets away with it because of his brownlows. Just makes him a footballer who sometimes does silly things.

I think the shots at him about the brownlow votes stem from the fact that when he is good he is really good (and at those times consistently receives votes) but when he is bad he is really bad and leaves you wondering how the hell this guy has won two brownlows.

Maybe they should do a player poll like they do with the league guys of who is the most overrated player and see if his name springs up.

[goswannie14]

I did'nt say he was Hansolo did I! the defense that "everyone else dose it" is not good enough for school children nor is it good enough for a AFL footballer. You can run around comparing him to half of the Hawthorn team if it makes you feel better and claim theres other players worse somehow that makes it alright but a sniper, is a sniper, is a sniper and he may not of been one before last year but he has a proven himself to be one to date!

Ahhhh, now I get it. If you run through the packs and make contact with someone then you are a sniper. If that's what you think then why don't you own up to who you really are.....Andrew Demetriou come on down.

FYI, a sniper, in Aussie rules is someone who continually takes someone out.....behind play.

[sidswan]

The Age Footy Guide said 'Could be a ground attendant and still poll in Brownlow'...... I reckon thats a bit rich, could the club take issue with The Age over that?

[AnnieH]

The Age Footy Guide said 'Could be a ground attendant and still poll in Brownlow'...... I reckon thats a bit rich, could the club take issue with The Age over that?

What a compliment to Goodesy!!

They should frame that.

[ShockOfHair]

It's Goodesy's style on the footy field, not the reports. He's the best player on the team, does lots of damage, and has what looks like an arrogant style, just like Buckley or Voss. It gets up the nose of opposition supporters.

I know Annie loves him for his haughty manner, but other supporters don't feel the same way.

[AnnieH]

It's Goodesy's style on the footy field, not the reports. He's the best player on the team, does lots of damage, and has what looks like an arrogant style, just like Buckley or Voss. It gets up the nose of opposition supporters.

I know Annie loves him for his haughty manner, but other supporters don't feel the same way.

He has every right to be haughty!!
Notice how people still talk lots about Buckley, Crawford, Voss, Kelly, et al?
These guys are legends of the game. By the time that Goodesy retires he'll also be a legend of the game; and when the time is right, become a hall of famer.
He is of this class of elite player, and we're very lucky to have him.

BUT (that's a big but), after Saturday night's performance - I'm seriously thinking of moving out. A girl can only take so much crap!!

(What irks me the most is when the ball is being tossed up (or bounced); Goodsey goes running straight through the pack. Message to Goodesy ... Sweetie, might be better if you timed it for maybe one second later, and then maybe take the ball with you - unless you're playing decoy, of course! Nine times out of 10, you're getting the clearance out of the pack. Unfortunately, you're not taking the ball with you. Maybe we can get Spida to teach someone how to send a ball down the gullet!)

[jdow]

FYI, a sniper, in Aussie rules is someone who continually takes someone out.....behind play.

Ok maybe not a sniper, but someone who loves to give the odd cheapshot when things arent going his way and knows he will get away with it, can you give the name for that and change all of my other posts I would appreciate it. because that is what he does as for running through packs and making contact thats just being silly to prove your own point ala liz's comment regarding half the Hawthorn team being snipers.

[liz]

liz's comment regarding half the Hawthorn team being snipers.

I most certainly did not term the Hawthorn team - or even half of it - as snipers. That is your term. I merely pointed out the volume and degree of reportable or close to reportable actions they have incurred in recent seasons.

I find the term "sniper" aimed at a player quite unpleasant, with its connotations of both cheating and cowardice. Whatever else some AFL players may or may not be, I doubt any of them can be accused of lacking courage.

[Primmy]

Jeeze Liz, you a barrister? I would want you on my side thank you.

You all seem to have conveniently forgotten that we have others in our ranks past and present who did not always come up smelling of roses. They have all had "moments". Except perhaps Robert Harvey. And Kirky.

[T-bag]

And then there's the lovable boundary umpires. For years we had a boundary umpire called Ashley at the SCG, and one day when we were getting flogged we decided to start heckling him to keep amused. Over the years it turned into a sort of pseudo-cheer squad to the point where he'd smile and wave when he went past before the game. Don't know what happened to him though, he's not been around for a while.

Probably got dumped for showing human qualities.