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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #46
    Originally posted by ScottH
    3 goals scored against B2, by one of the best in the business = Thrashed???
    Franklin took six contested marks on him and kicked atrociously. Fortunately for us his kicking efficiency was less than 50%. If he had kicked better he could have easily had six goals. If Cyril had not got injured (he was looking ominous against Crouch) it would have been worse. By the way can anyone explain why Bolton didn't lay one effective tackle on Franklin all day?
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    • Triple B
      Formerly 'BBB'
      • Feb 2003
      • 6999

      #47
      connolly, you're getting harder and harder to defend buddy.

      U have taken it upon yourself to defend Bevan for the frequent unfair criticism he constantly receives here on RWO. Kudos to you for that, even though it is frequently over the top it is mostly entertaining. You have allies in Roosy and the match committee who pick him week in week out despite his shortcomings because of the good qualities he brings to the table. Others don't see it and think they know more than Roosy and co, that's just delusional.

      However......

      U are now going down the path of ridiculous criticisms of other players, this week you have Crouch and C.Bolton in the crosshairs.

      There is no way known Bolton was 'massacred' by Buddy. It's on a par with the hardest job in footy and I'd say he performed admirably.

      Crouch did a terrific job on Aker last week, negating him brilliantly at the end of a month when he, Aker, has been in a real purple patch of form yet you still could not give him any credit. I know what you're saying about Crouch, he's not the future, but at the minute he is the best option to play the role he is asked to perform. Thornton, Laidlaw and Smith all deserve their chance in the seniors and even if it at the expense of Crouch, they won't be playing Crouch's role. That's more likely to fall back to your boy.
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      • connolly
        Registered User
        • Aug 2005
        • 2461

        #48
        Originally posted by Triple B
        However......

        U are now going down the path of ridiculous criticisms of other players, this week you have Crouch and C.Bolton in the crosshairs.

        There is no way known Bolton was 'massacred' by Buddy. It's on a par with the hardest job in footy and I'd say he performed admirably.

        Crouch did a terrific job on Aker last week, negating him brilliantly at the end of a month when he, Aker, has been in a real purple patch of form yet you still could not give him any credit. I know what you're saying about Crouch, he's not the future, but at the minute he is the best option to play the role he is asked to perform. Thornton, Laidlaw and Smith all deserve their chance in the seniors and even if it at the expense of Crouch, they won't be playing Crouch's role. That's more likely to fall back to your boy.
        Fair enough. But if you compare the game that Bolton played on Franklin at Homebush to the one yesterday it was well below that. As for Crouch his game yesterday was really poor. He is a senior player and appears to do nothing in terms of lifting the young uns. The run with role is an important one for the teaching of young midfielders the ropes. I would rather see Brabazon get three goals kicked on him by Acker and learn something about the game from one of the best than Crouch running around just tagging. Probably the issue will be sorted in the next couple of weeks as we are now in a team rebuilding season. We have stuck with them through lean years so its not an issue if we are getting beaten provided the boys have a go and the kids are given a chance. i really feel for Brabazon as he has never really been given a go at the senior level. He should be now and if he can't cut the mustard over the remainder of the season, at least the kid won't die wondering. Thornton is a terrific prospect (a really great kid as well) and hasn''t been given much of a go at senior level. Barlow needs the time with the seniors, getting flattened and hitting the packs. Maybe we should try him at centre half back now that Bolton is out? Can Pyke play a mobile ruck rover role? This season should be of real interest in regard to the young players showing us something.
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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #49
          Originally posted by connolly
          .....I would rather see Brabazon get three goals kicked on him by Acker and learn something about the game from one of the best than Crouch running around just tagging. Probably the issue will be sorted in the next couple of weeks as we are now in a team rebuilding season.......
          Therein lies the conundrum.

          If we are in a rebuilding phase, officially, where results can be sacrificed at the expense of getting games into some of the younguns', then Crouch out for a youngun I can live with, but I am in the 'happy to play finals year in, year out and hopefully snag a flag along the way' camp and haven't given up on this year just yet. As such, pick the best 22 on form.
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          • connolly
            Registered User
            • Aug 2005
            • 2461

            #50
            Originally posted by Triple B
            Therein lies the conundrum.

            If we are in a rebuilding phase, officially, where results can be sacrificed at the expense of getting games into some of the younguns', then Crouch out for a youngun I can live with, but I am in the 'happy to play finals year in, year out and hopefully snag a flag along the way' camp and haven't given up on this year just yet. As such, pick the best 22 on form.
            Hope you are right. Happy to be proved wrong on this.
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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #51
              Originally posted by connolly
              Hope you are right. Happy to be proved wrong on this.
              Let me just make it clear, I haven't given up hope of making finals. Hope of a flag has long gone, in truth, was never actually there.
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • rojo
                Opti-pessi-misti
                • Mar 2009
                • 1103

                #52
                Originally posted by connolly
                Thornton is a terrific prospect (a really great kid as well) and hasn''t been given much of a go at senior level. Barlow needs the time with the seniors, getting flattened and hitting the packs. Maybe we should try him at centre half back now that Bolton is out? Can Pyke play a mobile ruck rover role? This season should be of real interest in regard to the young players showing us something.
                Yes, yes and yes! We have yet to find out whether EB can realise his potential. What role is he usually given in the reserves? Does anyone know yet where his best position is? It must be really hard to be thrown into the seniors and asked to play an unfamiliar role.

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                • SwansFan1972
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 621

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  Let me just make it clear, I haven't given up hope of making finals. Hope of a flag has long gone, in truth, was never actually there.
                  I used to feel the same, but mostly because I figured if you're in the finals, you're a chance to win.

                  This year is very different though - what's the point of playing a final if you have no chance of gaining anything other than "finals experience"?

                  To get back to competitiveness for a flag, it just might be better to get an early start on the next season and a higher draft pick and leave the business end of the season to those who might be able to do the business. And realistically, participation in the finals is probably already out of the team's hands, unless the ladder stays in such weird shape and 11-11, or even more weirdly, 10-12 with healthy percentage is enough to get in.

                  I hate being so defeatist - it flies completely in the face of what supporting your team should be about, which is really sad, but the game is being drilled down year after year into just being a business. Passion, emotion and the aspects of the game we all love are under constant siege by rule changes and AFL totalitarianism. If you can't win the flag in a season, then you need to be doing whatever it takes to make sure you can challenge again as soon as possible.

                  Knowing that magic recipe is the catch however, and if I knew what it was, I wouldn't be sitting here blogging!

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #54
                    Originally posted by connolly
                    By the way can anyone explain why Bolton didn't lay one effective tackle on Franklin all day?
                    He laid at least one I can remember, but buddy still managed to snap a goal, whilst being tackle, while your fav boy watched on.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11346

                      #55
                      Originally posted by ScottH
                      He laid at least one I can remember, but buddy still managed to snap a goal, whilst being tackle, while your fav boy watched on.
                      The stats say different Scotty. One dirty big duck egg against his name this week.

                      By the way, Scott was a very common name for footballers in the 90's and early 2000's. There was a Scott here and a Scott there. Some were Scott or Scotty so and so and there was lot of players with Scott as a surname. I remember Rex Hunt getting his Scotts and Scotty's mixed up one day.

                      You could probably put together a handy side of Scotts.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Nico
                        The stats say different Scotty. One dirty big duck egg against his name this week.
                        Well, the stats in the HS, contradict the 4 pics on the same page, of said tackle!!

                        By the way, Scott was a very common name for footballers in the 90's and early 2000's. There was a Scott here and a Scott there. Some were Scott or Scotty so and so and there was lot of players with Scott as a surname. I remember Rex Hunt getting his Scotts and Scotty's mixed up one day.

                        You could probably put together a handy side of Scotts.
                        There is a future project for some poor soul!!

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                        • ROK Lobster
                          RWO Life Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 8658

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Nico

                          You could probably put together a handy side of Scotts.
                          WOuld they play in shorts or Kilts?

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                          • Margie
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 800

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                            WOuld they play in shorts or Kilts?
                            I vote for kilts!

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                            • ROK Lobster
                              RWO Life Member
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 8658

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Margie
                              I vote for kilts!
                              Not if our Scott plays.

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                #60
                                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                                Not if our Scott plays.
                                I have a lovely Sporran!!

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