Facing some home truths

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Well, we were presented with a perfect chance to cement ourselves inside the 8 against an absolute injury-ridden rabble, and we only manage to embarrass ourselves.

Hall: Mate, I thought you'd turned a corner, but how wrong I was. You idiot!

Bevan: Time for connolly to admit you're a dud, but fortunately for you we have many and you're probably not the biggest. (Bloody close, though)

Forward line: It's quite simply very sub-par and I don't see it getting better anytime soon. Grundy isn't the solution and White is a year or two away from having a real impact in there. Goodes is great up forward but we need him everywhere else, let's hope that Johnston is a gun!

Feel free to add to my rant, or insult me for being overly negative.

[hammo]

We can't afford to keep carrying Barry Hall because at least 8 times a game it results in the opposition getting a free path out of defence through his constant infringements.

However legitimate the free kicks against him, the fact is the umpires are always looking to ping him. Barry doesn't help himself by constantly engaging in wrestling and not leading to space.

He's become the proverbial liability in the side.

[BSA5]

Hall - one stupid act (plus some bad umpiring, that second 50 should never have been paid), and a quiet-ish but still effective game, slotting 2 goals. People are turning far too quickly (not that that's unusual here! )

Bevan - I thought he was quite serviceable, and far from our worst. Not sure why you're picking on him.

Forward line - They had pretty poor delivery all day. The Port game showed how effective Hall, Magic and co can be with half-decent delivery (let's be honest, we'll never see much better than "decent" delivery from the current Swans midfield). Grundy can be an effective 3rd tall. He has been poor for the last two games (though he wasn't our worst today), but hasn't done enough to be dropped. If he has another poor game against the Pies, maybe drop him and let him fight his way back into the side, but he's shown enough to convince me that he'll be a decent player. Certainly no star, and not the sort of player you could build a forwardline around, but a good solid contributor.

[BSA5]

We can't afford to keep carrying Barry Hall because at least 8 times a game it results in the opposition getting a free path out of defence through his constant infringements.

However legitimate the free kicks against him, the fact is the umpires are always looking to ping him. Barry doesn't help himself by constantly engaging in wrestling and not leading to space.

He's become the proverbial liability in the side.

So you're claiming he gives away 8 free kicks a game? You should check some stats before making claims like that.

[ROK Lobster]

Hall - one stupid act (plus some bad umpiring, that second 50 should never have been paid), and a quiet-ish but still effective game, slotting 2 goals. People are turning far too quickly (not that that's unusual here! )

We need a scapegoat to explain a loss, always have. The leadership group will probably react the same way...

[Robbo]

The Roos dynasty is officially over as of now. This is the worst position we've been in for quite a long time now.

I just hope that he's got the bollocks to get rid of the driftwood and start playing more of these kids who dominate the reserves week in week out.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

If I read "quite servicable" again on this board I think I'll scream.

[Young Blood]

Well, we were presented with a perfect chance to cement ourselves inside the 8 against an absolute injury-ridden rabble, and we only manage to embarrass ourselves.

Hawks may have had some injuries but were always favourites today with Franklin, Roughead & Williams up front and Mitchell, Bateman, Sewell & Lewis the core of a more than capable midfield.

[satchmopugdog]

The biggest home truth is our lack of skill.

We get beaten in nearly every one on one contest. We don't get the ball out quickly like the Hawks. Their hands are terrific even witha wet ball.

McVeigh is still good .I forget about him.


Grundy= ponderous

Moore not quick enough.

[hammo]

So you're claiming he gives away 8 free kicks a game? You should check some stats before making claims like that.

A possible exaggeration but that's the impression he leaves sometimes. Certainly combining the frees against and the times where Hall is left waving his arms in the air pleading for a free it would be at least 8 times a game.

[ugg]

The biggest home truth is our lack of skill.

We get beaten in nearly every one on one contest. We don't get the ball out quickly like the Hawks. Their hands are terrific even witha wet ball.

McVeigh is still good .I forget about him.


Grundy= ponderous

Moore not quick enough.

Ponderous, what a fantastic adjective to describe Grundy, I've been thinking for one for ages.

He doesn't look like he thinks he belongs out there. Always second guessing himself when he has the ball.

[Margie]

Ponderous, what a fantastic adjective to describe Grundy, I've been thinking for one for ages.

He doesn't look like he thinks he belongs out there. Always second guessing himself when he has the ball.

It is a good way to describe him.

He and players such as Bevan try but just seem like dumb footballers.

[Dogzbody]

I was trying to figure out why I was sooo cranky after watching today's game

Possibilities:

* We hit opposition targets very well (instead of our own)
* Barry Hall losing the plot yet again
* Seeing every reason in the rule book for frees.... against us
* Seeing low percentage play-ons rather than attentive target spotting
* Watching Kirky trying to motivate when realistically nobody was listening

then I realised:

we are definitely on the way down, and I hadn't swallowed that pill yet as we always seem to find a way to keep fighting....but my confidence in this group took a blow today, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...the Hawks were obviously gone and we couldn't put them away. Please tell me its just my mood and its the same as usual, but instinctively this doesn't feel good

The injury to Craig Bolton could be the acronym that spells "its all over"

[Lucky Knickers]

On the big paddock of the MCG our midfield did not run hard or fast enough to get to dangerous positions and provide options up forward OR provide a crumb. Compare that to the gut-busting running of Sewell, BAteman, McGlynn and Mitchell today. Hawks are a superior team and we would have got smashed had the team they played been fully fit. We never would have headed them.

[Margie]

On the big paddock of the MCG our midfield did not run hard or fast enough to get to dangerous positions and provide options up forward OR provide a crumb. Compare that to the gut-busting running of Sewell, BAteman, McGlynn and Mitchell today. Hawks are a superior team and we would have got smashed had the team they played been fully fit. We never would have headed them.

Sad but true. We play the SCG well for that reason. Although we did have that good win against the Hawks at Homebush in April.

Crumbing was virtually non-existent today.