In defense of Hall

[chalbilto]

Sorry Robbo but you are barking up the wrong tree. It's obvious that the majority of the posters here don't agree with your points of view and upon viewing the replay I agree with Liz's assessment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but respectfully I think you are wrong in this instance. I also believe that Paul Roos was very harsh with his criticism of Barry Hall at the post match interview and that he should now be defending him. Roos says that they have spoken to the umpires department about Hall's treatment, but maybe he should a James Hird or Grant Thomas and publicly comment about the umpires in the media. Sure he will cop a $20,000 fine, but if he achieves some justice then it will be well worth it. I for one would only be too willing to donate money to this fine if the situation ever arose.

[Robbo]

Which part of my post do you disagree with chalbilto?

[chalbilto]

Robbo, it is not just your last post but the majority of your posts in this thread.

[SwansFan1972]

"You just don't need to do that Barry"

-Craig Hendrie

Hendrie didn't need to blow the pea out of his whistle either, but he did. As I've said elsewhere, the Hawks got so used to hearing it in their favour they were reacting to it faster than Pavlov's dog by halfway through the third quarter.

He's secured himself membership of the Chamberlain/McLaren "Feel For The Game" club.

And some are saying his brother played for the Hawks ... not that I would ever suggest that would affect the impartiality of that particular man in green. Their impartiality is already affected by Baz's face only a mother could love. Oh that he had a dial like Lloyd's or the Dog's Johnno, how different it could all be!

[Robbo]

Robbo, it is not just your last post but the majority of your posts in this thread.

So you don't think it was stupid of Hall to make head high contact with Mitchell?

[SwansFan1972]

So you don't think it was stupid of Hall to make head high contact with Mitchell?

Mitchell was behaving like a little goblin, so unless hall's arms were taped to his sides, head high contact was likely!

The focus is on Hall, but the way the Hawks play the game has escaped scrutiny. They are a dirty bunch of scraggers (with a few exceptions - Stewie Dew, Hodge are all class) who play the game trying to make this sort of rubbish happen.

The footy gods will square up with them (if they haven't already - as premiership defences go, it is pretty poor so far, regardless of the causes).

[dimelb]

... Mitchell was in his path, yes. But was Hall obliged to make head high contact with him? He CHOSE to do that, and it gave Roughead a shot from the goal square ...

I've watched the replays on TV and on the YouTube, and I didn't see Hall make head-high contact with Mitchell; he gave a shove with his forearm across the top of Mitchell's chest. At no time in the whole episode was Hall guilty of a reportable offence.
On the matter of losing his block, I agree with you. He shouldn't have done it. But his frustration is thoroughly understandable. He is probably the most over-penalized and under-rewarded player in the game.

[Melbournehammer]

it is impossible to conclude other than that inconsistency is what drives the 50 m penalty.

and it is easy to be critical of barry because of previous actions but there were any number of incidents where players screamed at umpires but not even free kicks were paid.

all game the inconsistency was there and all three fell for crowd calls all match.

at the time i was frustrated that he didnt actually whack mitchell - the 100m was going to get roughhead close enough to goal to be relatively straightforward and i thought if he was going to give another one away it should have been for something worthwhile.... you coulod see he wanted to just let mitchell have one but decided not to...anyway it was simply another example of wretched umpiring

[ROK Lobster]

You seriously are delusional if you think he is in the right here. It's pretty clear that Kirk and Goodes didn't think he was.

But Kirk is a @@@@wit and Goodes is soft. There was not a 50 there for either the first or the second. The third maybe...

[Robbo]

I think the Roughead one was there. Barry grabbed him by the neck/upper chest and threw him down.

[Mogg0]

Robbo mate, you're completely off the ball on this one. I don't agree with your perspective on the incident, but at least you've presented it without being an arse!

Nice to see ROK not immediately playing devil's advocate. I couldn't take anymore frustration after yesterday.

[Puppy Eyes]

I think the Roughead one was there. Barry grabbed him by the neck/upper chest and threw him down.

You know, I remember debating against people like you when the Socceroos got shafted by Italy in the last world cup. It's like there's some great moral or intellectual virtue in taking the side of the opposition and bagging out your own. Over at BigFooty, supporters from all clubs have been in supporting Hall and saying he was shafted. Quartermain and Walls BOTH said on 1 Week at a Time tonight that Hall was shafted on the first three decisions. Footy is a physical game game with lots of adrenalin. That's why the rules say that it is acceptable to question umpires decisions but that you can't be overly demonstrative or abusive. He said five words. None of them offensive and the umpire wasn't the subject. So there is NO WAY it can be called abuse.

Roughead dived.

[ROK Lobster]

He said five words. None of them offensive and the umpire wasn't the subject. So there is NO WAY it can be called abuse.

Roughead dived.

That's how it seemed to me.

As for my earlier comments re Kirk and Goodes they were piss take words clearly. Of course they were trying to calm Barry down, does not mea that they thought the frees were warranted.

[Robbo]

Robbo mate, you're completely off the ball on this one. I don't agree with your perspective on the incident, but at least you've presented it without being an arse!

Nice to see ROK not immediately playing devil's advocate. I couldn't take anymore frustration after yesterday.

Can you try and be a bit more specific.

[ROK Lobster]

Can you try and be a bit more specific.

Mogg0 thinks you are being a dick.