Could W. Carey be an assistant at the swans in 2010?

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  • Lucky Knickers
    Fandom of Fabulousness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4220

    #31
    Originally posted by Hartijon
    Its up to parents to make sure their kids know the difference between expertise in football for which these guys are superb and can be respected and expertise in living life in which they need some remedial help.
    I certainly agree with your sentiments that parents are responsible. I'm not sure on your position on the sanitising of the game but I think that's a good thing and a major reason why the AFL is so successful. If sanitising is taking out the poor antisocial mysogynistic, sexist behaviour and attitudes - then I'm all for it.
    If it's taking out the bump (a la Buddy on Cousins) - well that's a different story.
    Carey was an outstanding footballer. Is he a good coach? Well, his form isn't great. When he was being paid as a forward coach "consultant/specialist" by the pies he was less than committed. This by his own admission.
    Horse Longmire was also a great footballer and is a good coach. You ask Barry Hall, who has been one of the most influential on his game as a forward? Horse took Baz to AA and a premiership and arguably the best forward in the game in 05/06.

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    • Robbo
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2007
      • 2946

      #32
      He has learnt from his mistakes and is a rehabilitated person by the looks of things. If he was trying to get elected prime minister then yeah hold his past against him, but it shouldn't matter if he wants to coach. I would have him in a heart beat.

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #33
        Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
        Wayne Carey:
        - lied to his team, his best mate, his wife....Big tick
        - cheat: on his best mate, on his wife....tick tick
        - stab in the back: his best mate, his team, his wife....tick tick tick
        - assault: his girlfriend, the cops in Melb, the police in the USA...that's 4 out of 5

        I'm not sure if your point is in favour or against but I would much rather that he went to another club than Sydney where he can put in his 100% or thereabouts efforts (depending on his mood) into their forward line.

        I do hope he gets his life together for his daughter's sake, but I'd rather he did that away from the Swans.


        Well there you go everyone. This Thread is dead in the water. the reason he was going back to Melbourne is to be near his daughter. He is not going to be coming up here. Over and out.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • Rod_
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 1179

          #34
          I understand that the bloods have a no d_ckhead policy - this will exclude this wanker.

          Rod_

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          • Lohengrin
            On the Rookie List
            • Jul 2008
            • 641

            #35
            Does this still get a run!?!

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            • Robbo
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2007
              • 2946

              #36
              Barry Hall was a dickhead but we hung on to him for a while.

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              • Armchair Coach
                On the Rookie List
                • Jul 2009
                • 95

                #37
                Alright. He's been a silly-sausage. And not the greatest of role models. I sort of see him as a bit of a Warney type. Except that Warney may be smarter. And everyone still loves him despite his "flaws".

                All the bloke really knows is football-and he was ace at it. If part of him learning to be a "better person" means coming to Sydney (or any other club) to teach players how to be also ace-well I just don't see the harm.
                Last edited by ScottH; 26 August 2009, 06:27 AM.

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                • CureTheSane
                  Carpe Noctem
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 5032

                  #38
                  Originally posted by goswannie14
                  Gee I love the sanctimony of some of the posters on here. Something about people living in glass houses springs to mind.

                  Did anyone see Carey's interview last night on Footy Classified? Different person to the one I have seen previously. He is only moderately interested in coaching in a specialist role. So, like so many threads at the moment, the question bears little resemblance to reality.
                  Doesn't matter if people change to most here.
                  One mistake makes them a 'd*ckhead' and written off forever.
                  If RWO had a no d*ckhead policy which was based on past stupid behaviour such as peeing on a window, there would be no posts.
                  Hell, I flashed my ass at a footballer while he was eating dinner with his teammates one night.
                  It was friggin hilarious at the time (to everyone, including the team mates, but not the actual player) but I'f be out on that alone, forget about the tonnes of other dumb things I've done
                  The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ScottH
                    We have plenty of wankers on here, and we let them stay.
                    haha, you beat me to it.

                    BTW, Hall is not the only person who has come to the Swans calssed as a 'd*cihead'.
                    There were a few who didn't want Longmire here.
                    Plugger was the most hated player by the Swans, then he came here the next year.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #40
                      Originally posted by CureTheSane
                      haha, you beat me to it.

                      BTW, Hall is not the only person who has come to the Swans calssed as a 'd*cihead'.
                      There were a few who didn't want Longmire here.
                      Plugger was the most hated player by the Swans, then he came here the next year.
                      Also Everitt would have been classed as a dickhead (btw, it's not a filtered word) at times during his illustrious career.
                      I'm sure there are more.

                      AND there was never a "NO DICKHEAD RULE", it was just an off the cuff comment made by Colless(?) a while ago. Not sure what it was in realtion to back then.

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                      • hammo
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5554

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ScottH

                        AND there was never a "NO DICKHEAD RULE", it was just an off the cuff comment made by Colless(?) a while ago. Not sure what it was in realtion to back then.
                        NO, there was actually. It was revealed around the time of the grand final by then recruiting manager Rick Barham.

                        As you search for the magic ingredient to this surprising Swans team, the man who put the pieces together, recruiting manager Rick Barham, provides the first clue: "You won't find a dickhead on our list." That, Barham acknowledges, is due partly to the club's groundbreaking player welfare policy, something initiated not merely to keep players out of trouble but to keep them in Sydney.

                        But "no dickheads" is also recruiting policy. Many times, says Barham, potential recruits with superior skill have been overlooked in the draft because they have not had the right character.
                        One for all, all for one - AFL - Sport - smh.com.au
                        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                        • CureTheSane
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5032

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ScottH
                          Also Everitt would have been classed as a dickhead (btw, it's not a filtered word) at times during his illustrious career.
                          I'm sure there are more.

                          AND there was never a "NO DICKHEAD RULE", it was just an off the cuff comment made by Colless(?) a while ago. Not sure what it was in realtion to back then.
                          I get to swear here, I get to swear here, I get to swear here.......

                          And every time I mention the 'no dickhead policy' I use ' ' because it's such a ridiculous statement.
                          I'm sure the Swans will welcome ANYONE into 'the inner sanctum of the bloods' if they are of assistance to the Swans moving onward and upward.
                          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                          • CureTheSane
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hammo
                            NO, there was actually. It was revealed around the time of the grand final by then recruiting manager Rick Barham.



                            One for all, all for one - AFL - Sport - smh.com.au
                            What you quoted is something EVERY SINGLE CLUB will use.
                            In fact every single employer.
                            That is what a job interview is for.
                            Putting the 'no dickhead' label on it just makes it look tosserish.

                            *adds tosserish to firefox dictionary*

                            The Swans aren't special in this area.
                            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                            • Go Swannies
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5697

                              #44
                              Originally posted by CureTheSane
                              What you quoted is something EVERY SINGLE CLUB will use.
                              In fact every single employer.
                              That is what a job interview is for.
                              Putting the 'no dickhead' label on it just makes it look tosserish.

                              *adds tosserish to firefox dictionary*

                              The Swans aren't special in this area.
                              Richmond took Cousins. We said we wouldn't. There are different standards from one club to another. The Swans might be a bit Boy Scouts for some but it seems to ensure we stay squeaky clean in a city where footy players are often on the front pages for the wrong reasons.

                              BTW, on an earlier post, I'd never heard Plugger was ever regarded as a dickhead?

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                              • ScottH
                                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 23665

                                #45
                                Originally posted by hammo
                                NO, there was actually. It was revealed around the time of the grand final by then recruiting manager Rick Barham.



                                One for all, all for one - AFL - Sport - smh.com.au
                                Well he was wrong wan't he. Hall, Davis ...

                                I guess that makes Barham a dickhead.

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